Boxrec is a useless indication

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by billo_billy, Jun 29, 2015.


  1. billo_billy

    billo_billy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although i understand its produced on a points basis, some of the rankings are ridiculous. Prime example is AJ. Boxrec have him ranked 13th above chisora, chagaev, charr, arreola and wach, although he'd probably be favourites against most of these, the opponents he's faced surely doesn't mean he deserves such a high ranking!
     
  2. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    If he would be favourite against them then boxrec has it right!
     
  3. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best indicator out there in my opinion, yes there will be faults in it but no more than any other ranking based thing. Not sure how it is worked out but it takes your talent and ability into consideration a lot and more so than official rankings as fighters on their way up can have ranking without facing too many top fighters.
     
  4. billo_billy

    billo_billy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was my understanding that your ranking is an indication of your performances and fights, and the results that you've delivered not what your expected to.
     
  5. boxfap

    boxfap USA! USA! USA!

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    You mis-understand then. Its a combination of both for points based hybrid ranking systems like boxrec and the ring rankings. Its supposed to be an indicator of who is better than who.

    While the alphabet rankings are SUPPOSED to be based on performance only (what you were expecting from boxrec) in reality they are also based to some extent on potential as well. Without that malleability in the ranking system it becomes impossible to rank prospects at a level that allows them to fight established fighters.
     
  6. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I rarely look at the current guys, because ratings are readily available from a few sources.

    It's the All-time ratings that are ridiculous, and not necessarily in what numerical position a fighter sits in. But in the Number of Points attributed to fighters.

    this will and does totally mislead & misrepresent literally thousands (1000s) of great fighters through the years...

    I know fighters get more points for title fights and defences and such things, and that is OK too... but again, they are either giving too many points for such fights or far too few points at the other end for normal or less important bouts.

    i.e there is no way a SRR, Joe Louis, Archie Moore or Lennox Lewis are 1000 or 1,500 points ahead of their peers and other fighters on the lists.

    the point differences should only be in the Tens or a couple of hundred different, which more accurately compliments the actual competitive level among these men.

    there are elite fighters certainly, but not thousands of points ahead of other top men!
     
  7. korn96

    korn96 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i dont take any rankings seriously its all bull****
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A boxing fan cannot criticize boxrec, it is an amazing source, the envy of any other sport, and it is free!

    If you are only using boxrec for the rankings, then you really are not using the site to its full potential...
     
  9. maley

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    Boxrec is a great source and very informative but i dont take any notice of their rankings yes theirs a formula they use but I don't agree with it. The forum is good tho.