Boxrec's 168 lb all-time top 10 vs current top 10

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  1. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    All-time Top 10 vs Current Top 10
    Joe Calzaghe vs Lucian Bute
    Steve Collins vs Andre Dirrell
    Chris Eubank vs Carl Froch
    Sven Ottke vs Andre Ward
    Nigel Benn vs Mikkel Kessler
    Robin Reid vs Kelly Pavlik
    Fulgencio Obelmejias vs Robert Stieglitz
    Victor Cordoba vs Glen Johnson
    Frankie Liles vs Dimitry Sartison
    Thulani Malinga vs Arthur Abraham

    if you want to know how bad the history of the super middle division is, all you need to do is look at these match-ups. i think the current top 10 wins the majority of these fantasy fights. thoughts?
     
    kmac, Dec 30, 2010
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  2. BUMPY KNUCKLES

    BUMPY KNUCKLES Guest

    calzaghe collins eubank benn all win there fights , that is a very poor all time list though
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Prime jones beats everyone out that list every single time.
     
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  4. motorcity cobra

    motorcity cobra hooker Full Member

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    thank you, wtf is he not on there?
     
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  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Where is Jones, Toney & G-Man at?
     
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  6. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    jones and toney are still active and won't be ranked in the 168 lb division anyway and g-man is ranked as a middleweight since he had more fights there.
     
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  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Compared to the original 8 divisions 168 has a pretty short history. The IBF inaugurated the division in 1984. The division is just now coming into its own. Historically you can't compare 168 to any of the original 8 divisions. If the current trends continue, it will eventually become one of boxings most "glamorous" divisions, but that will take several more years.
     
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  8. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Fought mostly and still does at Light Heavy meaning his still fighting and cant be added to either of those lists.
     
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  9. executioner147

    executioner147 Execution Time Full Member

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    Pavlik?
     
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  10. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Why are you using Boxrec's top 10? :huh Apply your own knowledge of the divison - if you have any that is - and come up with your own top 10 rather than this lazy attempt at a thread.

    I would instantly pick Calzaghe over Bute, Eubank over Froch, Benn over Kessler, Liles over Sartison and Obelmeijas over Stieglitz aswell, so I don't see how today's top 10 wins the 'majority' of those match-ups.
     
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  11. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe 1st in any top 10?

    Laughable.
     
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  12. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    Because boxrec's standings are based largely on your wins/loss ratio. Roy has several losses now so his current atg standing is low with boxrec. Calzaghe has so many points because he has points for winning and no demerits for losing. (Same with Mayweather btw)
     
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  13. pacpowerpellet

    pacpowerpellet Guest

    Why is froch and dirrell above ward and kessler? The four of them should also be above bute even aa ranks higher the bute in current top 10
     
    pacpowerpellet, Dec 30, 2010
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  14. motorcity cobra

    motorcity cobra hooker Full Member

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    good point lol I am still ****ed from the holidays
     
    motorcity cobra, Dec 30, 2010
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  15. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    Calzaghe UD 12 Bute
    Collins TKO 10 Dirrell
    Post-Watson Eubank UD 12 Froch / Pre-Watson Eubank TKO 8 Froch
    In Germany Ottke SD 12 Ward / In US Ward UD 12 Ottke
    Benn UD 12 Kessler
    Reid UD 12 Pavlik
    Stieglitz TKO 5 Obelmejias
    Johnson UD 12 Cordoba
    Liles UD 12 Sartison
    Abraham TKO 11 Malinga

    I've got the all-time up 6-3 with one dependant upon location.
     
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