Boxrec's Top 5 Heavyweights: Agree or Disagree?

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  1. tosun66

    tosun66 New Member Full Member

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    "what should have been a 112-114 near win at worst."

    Trolllllll!
     
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  2. pat19

    pat19 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Solis??? haha did you watch the fight? If theres someone that hasnt proved himself yet, its solis.
     
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  3. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My Top 10 at the moment

    Wlad
    Vitali
    Adamek
    Chambers
    Haye
    Thompson
    Povetkin
    Helenius
    Chagaev
    Dimitrenko

    H2H I'd favor Haye over Adamek or Chambers. But Adamek is more accomplished overall and Chambers has many more good wins as a heavyweight.
     
    ludwig, Jul 4, 2011
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  4. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    are you really this dumb?
     
    vnyc, Jul 4, 2011
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  5. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Thats not a bad list at all. I would only move Dimitrenko out there. Hes not a top 10 material. Solis is better. Arreola is better too. And Povetin's inactivity makes this guy's actual fighting condition a big question mark.
     
    popejking, Jul 4, 2011
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  6. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    The division is so disgusting that I wouldn't even bother ranking it. Wlad and Vitali are the only ones I'd bother to call a "top" HW and you can switch them around however you like.
     
    MetalMandible, Jul 4, 2011
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  7. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Povetkin is really good, but besides two wins over Chambers and a shot Chris Byrd, who has he fought? His last 6 opponents have been bums.

    Meanwhile, Chambers had to fight Wlad (when Povetkin chickened out).

    Yes Povetkin beat Chambers. But Chambers should be ranked higher. Boxrec has Povetkin at n.14, so perhaps I'm not crazy thinking this.
     
    Beatle, Jul 4, 2011
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  8. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius is not #3, he was being outboxed by Peter (260lb version), until he got the KO. Anyone who is being outboxed by a 260lb Peter, I don't see as being the 3rd best heavyweight...how could they be?

    I'd go

    1. Wlad
    2. Vitali
    3. Haye
    4. Adamek
    5. Not sure...could be Povetkin, hard to tell since he's been so inactive. I think possibly Arreola at his lower weight. Chambers, Tony Thompson and Helenius are possibly there, Boystov too.

    Basically after the top 3-4 heavyweights, (and even more so after the first 2), there are a lot of fighters on what seem to be fairly equal ground....good fights to be made.
     
    BoxingDomain, Jul 4, 2011
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  9. linn

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    1. Wladimir
    2. Vitali
    3. Haye
    4. Arreola
    5. Thompson
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    6. Solis
    7. Chambers
    8. Adamek
    9. Povetkin
    10. Chagaev
     
    linn, Jul 4, 2011
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  10. Flurry

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    :good
     
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  11. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes the divison is weak, when a guy with 10 fights like Helenius
    is rated from 5-8 by the guys here.

    Originally I thought he was going to be over his head, Bedinko, Levin, Brewster and Peters....

    He can not be ready for the big time, he needs five or six fights at least to pick up the tricks and slights of the trade.
    There are not five of six fights out there for him.
    If he don't run into a reality wall he's next years meat.
    He needs a fight with Chambers....but Chambers don't need a fight with him.
     
    Bo Bo Olson, Jul 4, 2011
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  12. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hayes better than 3/4/5 IMO.
    Helenius was just used as Hayes sparring partner!
    Adamek gonna get smashed up by Vitali and Chambers is at very best, average!

    Heavyweight division is dead!
     
    BodyBlaster, Jul 4, 2011
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  13. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wtf?
     
    lzolnier, Jul 4, 2011
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  14. AbbeyFN

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    Agree. :happy
     
    AbbeyFN, Jul 4, 2011
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  15. JMP

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    1. Wlad
    2. Vitali
    3. Haye
    4. Adamek
    5. Helenius

    If Povetkin gets active, I think he's good enough to beat Haye, Helenius, and Adamek.
     
    JMP, Jul 4, 2011
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