Boytsov win on points. Adamek took him easily.

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  1. funkykoval

    funkykoval Active Member Full Member

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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Adamek only got no chance against the klits and very little chance vs haye, a smart move would be to wait a bit, vitali retires capture that belt and fight all those other guys. But him fighting vitali next year would be more fun
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love Adamek, but he better stay the hell away from the brothers, they'll ruin him.


    Haye vs. Adamek is intriguing, Haye could land bombs on him early, would he take it? if he takes it Haye is going to get his mandible shattered.
     
  4. Robney

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    And Holyfield took him out in 3...

    Not really Boystoy's best showing, but you can't compare them on one result only.

    example:
    Ali lost to Frazier
    Foreman destroyed Frazier
    Ali KO'd Foreman
     
  5. TommyV

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    :lol:

    Adamek doesn't have the power to knock out top-level heavyweights. And his punch resistance is very questionable at the weight. He's been getting by on speed, smarts, skill and grit. I haven't seen last nights fight, but that's not going to prove any of my points wrong. Knocking out Vinny Maddalone does never to improve the view of his punching power at the weight.
     
  6. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    He doesn't have power to KO Klits, but for Haye it's enough.
     
  7. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boytsov is some featherfisted hypejob he aint going to KO anyone..
    Adamek or Chambers are rather power punchers than Boytsov
     
  8. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This must be THE MOST RETARTED post at ESB I have read so far.

    First of all Haye is in same league with Adamek about top Heavyweight Kid neither are Klitschkos level.

    Second of Haye has Very WEAK Chin, weak as it gets. Haye was Knocked down, Put in ***** street by Light Hitting supermiddleweights Midgeds and Feather fisted guys compared To Huge, EXTREMELY hard hitting Super Heavyweights As Klitschkos are. Adamek did took that Huge Right Hand from Big Puncher from Huge Heavyweight as Grant is and Adamek TOOK it, was hurt but he took it can you imagine Haye takingthat Punch> Knocked the **** out COLD. Haye so far got his knees buckled by JOhn Ruiz and valuev&Harrison barely land glove on him at least their not power punches.

    It is pretty obvious out come if Haye cant take Adamek out there early Haye is getting stopped being down numerous times after referee stopping it. There is slitghly chance for Adamek to KO Haye early too knowing Haye's shaky chin.

    you fuc.. imbecile
    nut hugger
     
  9. TommyV

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    Haye's chin isn't much worse than Wlad's, which sort of hurts your theory. I can't see him ever landing a big combination on Haye, and he doesn't have the power to take Haye out with one punch or badly hurt him.

    Haye is a bad fight for Adamek, he'd get taken out early. He'd be in with a quick, patient, calculating power-puncher and he's been hurt everytime he's taken a big shot by a natural heavy [the Arreola fight springs to mind].

    He's not going to beat any of the current belt-holders for me. If he has serious intentions about winning a belt, he needs to step his level of competition up a little bit, keep active, keep winning and wait for one of Wlad/Vitali/Haye to retire and try and grab that vacant belt, although if that happens, everybodies going to be after it.
     
  10. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it is stop kidding yourself Brit:lol:

    He has been seriously hurt by BIG MIDDLEWEIGHTS.

    Wlad been hurt by Legit Heavyweights which all were acknowledged quite Hard hitting Fighters. There is NO comparison unless you are deluded Haye fan boy For Christ Sake.

    After all that preaching for dumb Haye fans I still slightly lean towards Haye TKO somewhere 4-6 but If Adamek can get past that Haye's Stamina+ Chin will betray him.
     
  11. drowller

    drowller Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he has never been hurt by Arreola. And explain me this, if shot Ruiz is able to survive 9 rounds with Haye, why Adamek should go to sleep earlier?
     
  12. suckeggs

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    Beating Maddalone in a slower fashion than an old Holyfield proves f-all.

    Adamek is a great Light Heavy, top notch Cruiser but is very much the under dog against Haye and both Klits
     
  13. TommyV

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    Haye is a better heavyweight than Adamek, that is unquestionable. He's a more natural heavyweight and hence has legit power at the weight. I'm also confident that because he's a more natural heavyweight, he can handle heavy punchers better than Adamek.

    Yes, I said it. P4P there's no question that Adamek has a far, far superior chin. But at heavyweight? He got hurt everytime Arreola landed a decent right-hand and his sheer will and grit and Arreola's poor finishing allowed him to survive. I'm more than confident Haye could handle Adamek's dig than the Pole could handle Haye's.

    And when was this? 7/8 years ago that Mock knockdown, right? And you're holding that against him? The only other knockdowns he's suffered are against Carl Thompson - again early in his career against an experienced fighter and good puncher when he gassed, and he still took right-hand after right-hand when the fight was stopped and stayed up.

    Mormeck, where he evidently took a knee just as a precaution, and Barrett, which I don't even think was a legit knockdown and if it was, it was evidently a balance issue. He's never been knocked out, I've hardly ever seen him noticeable shaken and hurt by punches, and he's only been down a handleful of times.

    Got a clip of this? When was the last time Grant stopped/put down/hurt anybody above D level?

    :rofl

    As biased as it gets, please go and find me these clips of Haye 'getting his knees buckled' by Ruiz and Valuev. I guarentee you come back here with nothing to show of the sort.

    Why is it obvious? Haye is elusive and under-rated skill wise, he's a good boxer when he wants to be, but he's essentially a counter-puncher who looks for the knockout. Adamek has been tagged by lesser fighters so far, and hurt by I would argue lesser punchers.

    He struggled badly with Chris Arreola's jab, and he's as crude as it gets for the most part. Haye's jab is under-rated, he just doesn't use it that often. It's not great, but better than Arreola's for sure. He's got reach on Adamek, probably speed aswell, power, and he's not any less skilled or any less of a ring general.

    Actually, I'm not a Haye nut-hugger. I don't particularly care for him as a fighter anymore after his recent level of competition at heavyweight, and am realistic even to admit that he would lose to Vitali - who isn't even half as good as people think he is - and get's destroyed by Wlad, who I'm more of a fan of than Haye. You however let your hatred of Haye cloud your judgement.
     
  14. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz has a more proven chin at the weight.... Adamek was rocked by an old, fat slow as **** Grant. I'm still not convinced by Adamek at HW
     
  15. TommyV

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    :lol:

    Go and watch that fight again. Adamek got hurt a number of times by single right-hands from Arreola. It's not even hard to notice as he was running around the ring in an uncomposed manner and trying to cover up on the ropes and grab on trying to survive.

    Ruiz lasted that long because he may have been past his best, but he's still got a decent beard on him. His punch resistance wasn't exactly shot, I'd argue even that Ruiz takes a punch better than Adamek at heavyweight, and Haye finished poorly in that fight, too keen to make an impression.