Boytsov win on points. Adamek took him easily.

It's a lot worse. Wlad has been put down by genuine heavyweights who can bang. Sanders, Peter, Brewster and even TOS. And only Sanders was dropping him and hurting him with single shots and Sanders was a real puncher.

Haye has been badly rocked by ****ing Super Middle Lolenga Mock. Dropped by Thompson, dropped by Mormeck and hurt....none of who are heavyweights and only Thompson known as a puncher of any sort.

Haye would not have got up from the first Sanders punch.

 

dont you think barrett, valuev and ruiz hit harder than lolenga mock? they landed on haye but were never able to hurt him.

 

Fair points, although again, Mock was at the beginning of his career, he's been hit by bigger punchers and taking it well enough like Enzo/Ruiz/Valuev, who might not be massive punchers the latter two but they obviously hit harder than Mock, the Thompson fight did more to prove than disprove his chin if anything. The Mormeck fight I think he took a precautionary knee.

I'll concede that Wlad's chin is better [and isn't as bad as people think] but I do still feel - even at this stage of his career - that Haye's is relatively untested and unproven. Wouldn't hurt him to tuck his chin a bit more and roll punches better either.

 

Barrett and Valuev never landed anything of any note. Ruiz did a couple of times but none were on the chin or temple. Mock caught him on the temple and Mormeck caught him on the chin (if memory serves me right).

The fact is that he has been down and stunned multiple times in his career at a lower weight against far smaller punchers than the people Wlad has faced his whole career.

 

Yeah that would be nice, but we both know it wont happen.

 

You obviously never saw Estrada in the ring and didn't saw Grant against Adamek. Estrada isn't far from Eddie Chambers in terms of skills and talent. Grant was in the best shape in the last 10 years and I'm pretty sure that Grant that fought Adamek would beat many todays top 20 heavyweights. Name me some fighters today that have stronger one punch power than 6'7'' 250 Mike Grant. I'm not saying he is a very good fighter, but very solid and strong. Grant is a better scalp than Harrison, Bonin or Barrett.

Who did Haye beat?

Bonin? hahaha
Barrett? Washed up journeyman that put him down. Almost 40
Ruiz? Washed up one of the worst champions ever. Almost 40
Valuev? Biggest joke as a HW champion and Haye DIDN'T won with him. Haye must be good at blowjobbing the judges.
Harrison? HAHAHAHA

 

Haye is British but he's not a pure ethnic Englishman. He's half English, half black. What's to be upset about? Get over it.

 

Haye is english you racist ****.

 

And I'm Chinese.

 

you're xenophobic racist ass probably doesn't even know where china is.

btw im ****ing your white women.:deal

 

Since when was black a nationality?

You're one brick shy of a load matey, read your own post and try to make sense of it.

 

So is Haye and Byrd. Good luck.

 

Haye = English:deal

 

I guess they hit harder than lolenga mock ... you can be sure but only
desperate fan can bring them as an example of hard hitting punchers.
You can count on one hand accumulated stoppages from these three
boxers in the last decade, especially John Ruiz tremendous title reign and hug fests.

Otherwise the amout of knockouts in the last 5 years from the hand
of Arreola, Golota and Grant is greater than career wise amout of knockouts
by Barrett, Valuev and Ruiz .... but you right they hits harder than Lolenga Mock

 

john ruiz 44 wins 30kos, tomaz adamek 43 wins 28kos, ruiz hits harder :deal