Boytsov win on points. Adamek took him easily.

lol oh you

 

Right, because he'd understand you if you spoke Polish.

 

atsch

 

why would i want to speak that stupid language?

 

I'm waiting for Haye to make fights with Haye and Klit and then get back down to cruiser asap for the real contest--a rematch with Cunningham, this time with the Prudential Center filled to the brim. Neither of these guys are getting any younger but a rematch should happen.

Or forget the Klits and go back down to cruiser now, and fight RJJ and Hopkins at 200 for money fights.

 

Może czy rozumiesz polski ty będziesz wiedział kiedy mowię jesteś pierdolonym głupekiem.

 

Apparently you don't know anything about anything, because you think black is a nationality. And despite being born in England to English parents and having lived here all his life, Haye apparently isn't English because he's black.

**** off you ignorant, racist ****.

 

Speak English you coward.

 

To jest zabawne, Anglicy myślą że oni nie są rasisty, ale Polacy (a Rosjan, Włochów, itp.) zawsze są.

 

:rofl

I love how Loufatksi is NOT even kidding with this national/race stuff, he is dead serious with this.:rofl

 

Adamek would take Boytsov to school. I expect him winning almost every round. They are on different levels of teir careers and while Boytsov may improve a lot, Adamek has now peaked and is a very dangerous opponent for every HW atm.

This is exactly questionable. If you say Haye is more natural HW, then you are right. But you dont have to be more natural at weight to be better. The best example is Manny Pacquiao.

And this is why Adamek can outpoint Haye. Adamek is better boxer and has the higher workrate. He needs to win rounds, when Haye needs to look for the KO (as you said). Adamek is a very patient boxer and Haye doesnt have a chance to provoke Adamek, so he could counter Tomasz. Whats more if Haye tries to do this what he did to Macca, he may go down. Tough fight for David, so he will not fight Tomasz anytime soon.

Haye is only a bit bigger and this will not hurt Adamek much. I would question the speed - Adamek is really fast and is underrated in these terms. Adamek is the smarter one and has better boxing skills and workrate. And he can really take a big punch. Tough night for Haye.

 

The difference is Pacquiao is a far better fighter than the guys he's been fighting P4P which makes up for his lack of size. Adamek isn't exactly significantly better than Haye in P4P terms. I believe Haye to be the slightly better fighter overall anyway, combine that with Adamek's trouble handling true-heavyweight power and not doing as much damage with his punches as he did at the lower weights and it spells disaster.

'Better boxer' is questionable and at times irrelevant when it comes down to their respective intangibles. I'd like to see Adamek out-box somebody as quick and elusive as Haye, who also happens to be bigger.

To say that Haye can't provoke Adamek into being the aggressor when you've admitted he's the one that needs to win the rounds is extremely contradicting. Haye waited patiently for 2 rounds against Harrison amongst massive booing from the crowd, yet still wasn't provoked into leading at any point.

Haye should fight Adamek EXACTLY like he fought Enzo. He can't lead and play into Adamek's hands and give him openings. He needs to get Adamek to lead where I believe he has the better handspeed and is the better counter-punch, or certainly the more able counter-puncher in terms of their chances of landing on one and other.

Won't hurt him much? In terms of power it will. Haye has true heavyweight power and with his explosiveness and speed, he is unarguably one of the biggest punchers at the weight. He's unarguably a more explosive puncher than Arreola who had Adamek noticeably hurt a number of times. And he's offensively an overall better fighter than Arreola; a sharper and more accurate puncher.

I wouldn't question the speed to be honest. Haye to me looks noticeably faster. Adamek is still one of the fastest around at heavyweight, but he doesn't look as quick as Haye to me of hand or foot. Let's not forget he's actually heavier than Haye aswell.

Adamek may be slightly smarter and slightly more skilled, but the chances of him implementing those skills against Haye with his elusiveness, his composed and cautious approach are slim. It's debatable whether he's actually more skilled anyway. I mean he's probably in my top 5 skilled heavyweights around, but so is Haye.

Can take a big punch? At the lower weights maybe, at heavweight? That's open for questioning at the moment. He was hurt everytime Arreola landed a good right hand. Haye has a better right-hand, as I said, is a sharper, more accurate puncher, a more explosive puncher which means he'll be landing more than Arreola and probably harder in the overall scheme of things. Let's not make out that Adamek has a great defence either. Offensively he's skilled, defensively, he's very hittable.

 

Great post, but i disagree with the thing that Adamek got hurt by Arreola. Ive watchd lots of times this bout and am 100% sure there was not a single moment Adamek got hurt (Grant was the only one so far who caused some damage witg one punch, but Adamek was very reckless in that fight).

Anyway, it seems to me like Adamek fans gonna claim he is better than Haye and same pattern goes for Haye fans. Damn, what exacly stops this fight?

 

There are times in the fight where Lewis commentating mentions Adamek's footwork and how bad it is. Either it's terrible as it is or it's because he got hurt, his legs have gone and he's fighting on instinct. I'd lean towards the latter.

 

His shoe was broken that round. At the end of the round, they taped it up.