Bradley has learned a LOT from this fight - can win the rematch (without controversy)

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  1. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No 1 - Clean punching is considered to be the most important factor and if you are not landing your jabs you aren't doing that. Like I said, not every jab has to land, but if almost none of them do, you aren't contributing "effective aggression" nor ring generalship either. I contend that Bradley was highly inaccurate with his jabbing and thus wasn't effective with his aggression or in control of the ring.
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    If my jab is keeping you on the defensive and not allowing you to tee of on me as you please, is it not effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense? I am not letting you get to me like you want to by shooting out the jab.

    Timmeh's jab served him well in the championship rounds
     
  3. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For the record, I had Pac winning 7-5.
     
  4. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    How are those jabs effective when they don't set up anything? When they don't lead to anything significant. When the other guy still wins the rounds and exchanges in where these jabs were supposedly "effective".
     
  5. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Maybe we have a different definition of "significant". Remind me, when did he hurt, damage, panic, or land a punch that pushed Pacquiao back?
     
  6. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He landed several punches to the body that backed Pacquiao up. Sometimes he landed combinations to the body and hooks to the head.
     
  7. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    How is 50 total jabs landed at an 11% clip 'consistent' in any sense of the word? Are you stupid?
     
  8. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    That is desperate. It's wasn't "effective" in the context of that fight. You're reaching.
     
  9. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    In those championship rounds Tim missed more and landed less. The end.
     
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the 12th round Bradley controlled the round and landed a lot of jabs. In other rounds he landed fewer jabs. A fight is won round by round.

    Also compubox couldn't see that the jabs even when they miss were setting up Bradley's bodyshots which apparently you didn't even notice. Bradley was throwing double and triple jabs in the air to set up his body shots which is why Pacquiao was tired.

    Pacquiao didn't throw many jabs at all. I don't believe Pacquiao landed more punches at all but I'll watch the fight for a third time but it seemed to me Pacquiao was missing all night long so how was he landing the cleaner punches when he was punching in the air? Even if Bradley was hitting Pacquiao's arms, hips, gloves, Pacquiao was punching at the air wildly and was loading up.
     
  11. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Okay, when did he land those shots in a round where Pacquiao didn't land better and more telling punches.
     
  12. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    You don't believe Pacquiao landed more punches than Bradley? Really? Yeah, you should watch it again. You might be surprised.
     
  13. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley clearly won round 11 and 12. I had him winning round 10, he might have won round 9 or not, he won round 8, he won round 7. I had Bradley winning round 1.

    How do you argue that Pac won round 1? What did Pac land in round 1? What did Pac land in round 12? What did Pac land in round 11, round 10?

    Pac took round 3 possibly round 2, definitely round 4 and 5. So he won 2, 3, 4, 5, by round 6 Bradley looked exhausted and it may have been because of his ankle or because he was hurt by that left. But by round 7 Bradley took control and basically swept Pacquiao from 7 to 12.

    Pacquiao was being inactive, giving rounds away, trying to load up while Bradley was growing stronger. Bradley even backed Pacquiao up at times and made Pacquiao miss.
     
  14. Boxmaster

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    Round 12 Pacquiao didn't seem to land anything meaningful. Bradley did all the work and was actually backing Pacquiao down with the jab and combinations. He did the same in round 11, round 10. Round 9 was competitive but Pacquiao gave it away because Bradley was circling away from his straight left and Pacquiao was intent on landing that one punch. Basically the only time Pacquiao landed any meaningful punch was round 4 and 5.