Bradley now out of boxrec's P4P top 100

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  1. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His rank is debatable IF you wanna honor the official result.

    I would be inclined to do so if I felt like it was a close fight that could go either way. But in this case I saw no such thing. Pac dominated him and Bradley got some jabs in when Pac would get bored. I think I had it 9-3 or something like that.

    It was a flat out robbery and Im not what anyone would call a the biggest Pac fan, but I gotta call it like I see it.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who did he beat to be ranked #3 p4p? Explain it to me. Unless you're saying his win over Manny wasn't a robbery there's no way he should have even been a top p4p. At the time #2 was Ward, so you're saying Bradley ranks about Klitchko, and Pacquiao? Explain your pac**** logic please. He doesnt even rank above Marquez, if you say because he beat him he deserves a spot ahead of him, then Marquez deserves a spot ahead of Pacquiao too right?
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No life virgin, so you're saying you ranked Bradley above Wlad, Pacquiao, Marquez, Gonzalez, Rigo, and Stevenson?
     
  4. Imperial1

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    So your dismissing everything he did at 140 ?

    See that's what had him in the top 10 p4p to begin with
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not, but even if you add his 140 resume he did not deserve the #3 spot. Unless you rank him above Pacquiao and Wlad, I would give Gonzalez, Rigo, and Marquez spots ahead of Bradley as well. He was top 10 p4p, but the #3 ranking he got was a joke. Get it now?
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Btw his 140 resume is so overrated as well. Wins over Alexander, Peterson, and Abregu in 2010-2011 gets you p4p status in 2014? If beating Alexander and Peterson gets you p4p then Lucas should be top 5 as well since he was robbed by Alexander and knocked Peterson out.
     
  7. Imperial1

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    They are overratted what about when he won the belt over seas against Witter ? And his wins are overratted ? Who had as good of a resume as he did at 140 ? And he gave Alexander his first loss Your knit picking here man !
     
  8. bipop

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    Boxrec uses a mathematical algorithm. Boxer get a rating, and based on the result of their next bout, and the rating of their opponent, the rating chances. It is based on data - a decision win is a decision win (although their algorithm takes to account the width of the victory), and a KO win is a KO win. The purpose of the ratings if to make them as objectivity free as possible.

    If I KOed Mayweather with a steel chair, and the referee scored it as a legitimate win, I would rank above Mayweather.

    Bradley recorded a decision victory over a boxer on one of the most impressive runs in the sport's history. Thus, he rated very highly.

    Chaves has zero recognisable victories, thus was rated low. Bradley recorded a draw with him, thus Bradley's rating dropped a lot and Chaves's rose a lot. Incidentally, Chaves's rating would have improved even if he had lost a close fight (since Boxrec's formula expected him to lose widely). The same thing happened for Vasyl Lomachenko, who rose to about number 14 in the world (from 50), after his SD loss to Salido.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LOL so Witter is now an elite name? That was over half a decade ago, if we're counting **** from decades ago Bhop would be definitely above Bradley on the p4p list. Either way Witter was awkward, and crafty but beating him isn't p4p worthy. He's solid, but tell me who he beat that makes him such an impressive win? I'd say Bradley's win over Holt is more valuable than Witter. Either way, they're good wins like I said, but they get way overrated by Pacturds.
     
  10. ellerbe

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    Btw Danny has a better 140 resume imo, Khan the guy who schooled Alexander, Matthyse the guy who knocked Peterson out, I mean the guys on Danny's resume beat or knocked Bradley's resume out. I wouldnt consider Danny top 5 p4p though.
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    On my first view I had it 9-3 also. After watching it over and over I could see 8-4 or even 7-5 if you want to stretch but no Bradley victory by any means.
     
  12. Zimornsky

    Zimornsky King Fluid IV = CHEAT banned

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    Pacquiao aside, all Bradley does is win. Made easy work of Abregu. He made Alexander quit - something Khan couldn't do despite landing what, 50% of his power shots? He also clearly beat a rampaging, doped-up JMM.

    Somebody's mad because Ortiz and Guerrero are all but gatekeepers now and Canelo arguably lost to Trout and Lara.

    :rofl
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Bradley's a good fighter I think he just had a mediocre night, I still had him winning. I don't think he's a good welterweight to be honest.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    And Bradley couldn't finish what Matthyse did in 3 rounds, what's your point? Bradley's resume just isn't top 5 p4p worthy.
     
  15. weegriffin

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    He gave Alexander his first official loss but you can make a case Kotelnik beat him first and Matthysse also in his fight just after Bradley.

    But Bradley has a good resume Witter, Vasquez, Holt , Peterson , Alexander ,Abregu , Provodnikov and Marquez.