Bradley vs Hatton

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  1. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    I know that my opinion on the Bradley fight is minority opinion, that's ok. So was Your opinion on Chukhadzhyan being robbed against Ennis - and it has not stopped You from sharing it, has it?

    I saw this fight bunch of times, I do have a strong opinion about it. I think Bradley was treated horribly by the HBO and the boxing public after this fight. People tried to rob him out of his biggest career accomplishment and He fell down to depression as a result of that.
    The fact that commentary on that night was blatantly biased and way out of touch with what was happening in the ring is well established and demonstrated well by the video I posted earlier. You think it did not influence the public, or that Pacquiao won regardless - that's fine. I saw Tim making Pacquiao miss all night and scoring more effectively. Not a clear-cut victory, but close fight which went his way.

    I posted the opinions on Collazo fight since You said that most people thought Hatton won. I was curious, since it's been a while since I discussed this fight. I certainly talked with many people over the years who thought Collazo was robbed. Obviously like with almost any fight considered a robbery, You'll always have people with opposite opinion too.

    Me not saying what I think would be "not being honest".

    I'll put those two fights on the schedule to rewatch as well, though. Always an interesting experiment to review a fight after some years.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @Mastrangelo I just scored Pacquiao vs Bradley 1.

    Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley 1

    1 Bradley close
    2 Pacquiao competitive but clear round IMO
    3 Pacquiao clear round
    4 Pacquiao clear round Bradley got rocked
    5 Pacquiao clear round Bradley wobbled at the end
    6 Pacquiao slow round Pacquiao won it with the better work in the last 50 seconds
    7 Pacquiao competitive round but Pacquiao landed better punches
    8 Pacquiao slow round but Pacquiao landed the better punches
    9 Bradley close stole it with his good work down the stretch.
    10 Bradley his best round of the fight clear round.
    11 Pacquaio close round stole it with better work down the stretch.
    12 Bradley decent round for Bradley.

    116-112 Pacquiao

    I have the same score that i had when i watched it at the time 116-112 for Pacquiao, my issue with this fight is that i don't see many clear rounds for Bradley. He was competitive in this fight as i said before but i didn't see him winning many clear rounds until the last few rounds where Pacquiao slowed down.

    Final thoughts could i possibly see a draw at a stretch ? yes. But i don't see any argument for Bradley winning this fight hence it's still a bad decision IMO. I think anywhere between 116-112, 115-113, for Pacquiao are the right scores.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

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    @Mastrangelo my scorecard for Hatton vs Collazo.

    Ricky Hatton vs Luis Collazo

    1 Hatton 10-8 knockdown
    2 Collazo close round
    3 Hatton competitive
    4 Hatton good round for Hatton until last 20 secs
    5 Collazo clear round
    6 Collazo clear round
    7 Hatton good comeback round
    8 Hatton another good round for Hatton
    9 Hatton his type of round on the inside
    10 Collazo good comeback round landed the better punches
    11 Hatton competitive but Hatton did the better work
    12 Collazo big round Hatton badly rocked

    115-112 Hatton

    No robbery here Hatton made it his type fight on the inside more often than not and he simply outworked Collazo to win a close decision. Collazo had some good moments and won his fair share of rounds but i'm sorry this is not even remotely comparable to Pacquiao/Bradley in regards to controversy.

    Acceptable scores are 115-112, 114-113, for Hatton and 114-113 for Collazo no wider for either man.

    PS me and Harold Lederman only disagreed on the 4th round.
     
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  5. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Having just rewatched fight each of two fighters mentioned here - I think one result which has to be seriously considered is Technical Draw/No Contest due to Hatton cut caused by a head-butt in the early rounds.
    The two not clashing heads on the inside would be miraculous.
     
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