Bradley will beat Pacquiao...YOU heard it here first! 28 have tried, 28 have failed

Real talk.... I'm glad you are able to give credit to PAC which isn't usually the case when it comes to those who are looking to write him off. I wouldn't call Tim his best win at Welter Weight although I'd say it's a good one. I still have it in my mind that the guy is a Jr WW. He's even shorter than PAC which is normally not the case in PAC fights.

I think PAC should have been able to get Shane out of there too.....but look at the fight as a whole. There was more hugging by Shane and glove tapping than any other fight I've ever seen.....Including in the gym where more respect is shown. PAC didn't have it in his mind that he wanted Knock Shane out which was his own fault... I really don't think he stepped on the gas pedal like he probably could have because he liked Shane.

I think Shane's "D" was focused too much on running away and keeping out of range where PAC could land on him and also out of range where he could land on PAC....

And that's my issue with Shane's perfromance. It's one thing to stay out of your opponents range but usually fighters keep within their range so if they have a counter opportunity or an opening they can go for it.... Shane didn't care about any opportunities to land on Manny... he was just worried about Manny not being able to land on him. Shane didn't look to fight he looked to survive.

 

You sound like you actually gave shane a chance. I never and the fight was a joke. It was pac fighting a has been which was now pretty rubbish but had a name which could draw, margarito being the in the same boat.

Shane never had a chance i expected nothing from him, he just drew with mora. If pac wanted credit for beating shane he should of fought him after the margarito fight when shane was chasing him down but roach said if you can't fight us at the catchweight of 142 then we don't want the fight and shane couldn't make that weight. Once floyd whooped him and mora drew with him pac saw he was beatable and the fight took place. I expected pac to do more, why couldn't he tramp mosley off, is he no good at that ,why did he let mosley tie him up and hug him couldn't he punch through that?

 

Worst part about Shane-Manny fight was the problems Manny had in dealing with the simple movement Mosley was giving him.

 

I gave Shane a shot.... if he could rock Floyd then I knew he could potentially land that shot to put PAC out... But outside of a one punch KO or finishing him off after hurting Manny badly, I didn't give Shane much of a chance at winning any decisions or out working Manny over the course of the fight... However long it lasted. I thought PAC would win by KO or TKO.

Cotto, Marg and Shane are big names in boxing. PAC faced all of them because they brought their own fan based but also because they are all legit threats. They all are known for exciting fights and for being durable. They all had a chance to beat PAC especially since PAC is one who comes to fight creating more chances for the opposition to land something that would dethrone PAC.

Before Floyd faced Shane, Shane had one really bad performance against Mayora where he won the fight at the last second... LITERALLY and completely dominated Tony after the whole wrap scandal playing out right before the fight. Sometimes fighters have off nights. Mora was a style and a guy that Shane should have beaten... but he was coming off a humiliating loss to Mayweather and had to get himself up for a guy like Mora who doesn't really motivate a guy who's been in the game as long as Shane.

I think Shane really tried to survive and even went as far as to be OVERLY nice to PAC.. in hopes that it would take the viciousness out of him and allow him to survive. That's what it looked like to me. It was kind of embarrassing. For PAC too... he shouldn't have been so accommodating in a world title fight.

 

Shane got what could be called a lucky punch vs floyd because he lost round one he was losing round 2 till they 'lucky punch' and then he lost round 3, 4, 5 and every other round after that and lost by domination it wasn't even close it was a shut out. You can't take one lucky punch from a whole 12 round fight and give him a chance in another fight.

Cotto had a chance to beat pac and was a legit threat and is pac's best win at WW so far but margarito and mosley were no threat. Margarito was done coming from a brutal KO and a year ban and wasn't even ranked in the top 10 i don't know how you call him a legit threat. What's margarito done since being KO'd by mosley to be called a legit threat? what did he do pre cotto be a top threat? losses to paul williams and found with plaster in his hand wraps his whole career is tainted with doubt, does he even have punching power? he never even stopped his B-level tune up opponent before the pacquiao fight so what makes him a legit threat? because he doesn't have skills and mosley just wanted a payday as you saw in the ring. Nothing legit about any of them apart from there drawing power.

 

Lucky or not....if a 38 yr old Shane can land a "lucky" punch on Floyd or even a lesser guy like chop....then there's a chance they can do it against anyone they are facing.

I mean..... Marg had a chance simply because he was bigger, longer and stronger than Pac. from a technical and stylistic stand point Pac should have been the favorite.....but the risk of facing a guy that outweighs you by almost 20 lbs are very real.

Marg actually did alright against Miguel...he lost but he was coming on strong as the fight wore on. Since his ban and loss to Shane, tony hasn't been on a great streak.....but look at his comp... Pac and Miguel.... To top fighters in the world of boxing so you can't really knock Marg for that.

 

margy has a chance on paper but in reality he never had a chance. I could get a big guy of the street who's taller, bigger, stronger than pac but he doesn't have a chance if he doesn't have skills and margy doesn't have skills he was not a legit threat and his performance showed it. I don't blame margy i just take credit off pac for that weak meaningless victory and just another weight class pac and his fans can say he has had a title at but in reality neither he or margy weight the offical 154 weight and with the fight being at 150 the fight was in fact closer to 147 WW than 154 JMW. It's cheating history. He won his 147 WW title from cotto at 145 another fake title because he never fought at the weight but it is what it is but i just don't forget it and i defo take credit away from pac for it.

Pacquiao doesn't fight guys at there best, he fights broken fighters, close to retirement fighters, old fighters, slowed down fighters. Mean while floyd fights guys who are coming off big wins and high in confidence probably why he gets more PPV numbers as well. It helps sell the fight.

 

Cotto has more chance of beating Mayweather than Bradley does Pacquiao :bbb

 

i disagree

 

In short, yeah pretty much...I mean I take nothing away from Bradley, his determination and heart are admirable, but I think he's physically over matched and I believe Manny's technical flaws tend to get blown out of proportion in some instances. He's a Great/Elite fighter and has proven that on numerous occassions, I think Bradely is a Really Good fighter but not quite physically gifted enough to be Elite. Of course he could win, and I will be pulling for him to win, but at the end of the day I don't think Bradley's "advantages" trump Manny's...

 

Oh well, opinons.

I don't see Manny as being elite as a fighter, he looks great vs. certain fighters and is matched up very well, but other than that he is the same fighter that struggles with boxers and movement that he always was and he hasn't gotten better IMHO. When I look at Manny having 1/2 inch height advantage but Bradley having a 2 inch reach advantage, plus being very quick himself and defensively responsible with a great chin, I see huge problems for Manny.

 

Regardless of if you accept the 8 division that PAC has titles in or not..... what he's been able to do has been impressive. Not just anyone can do what he's done. Giving PAC credit is sometime hard to do with certain fans but history will undoubtedly be kind to Manny as he's been a great figure for the sport.

It's the same as Ray Leonard fight where Donny Lalonde. Do you consider Ray a 4 or 5 division champion? Most consider him a 5 division champion even though he faced Donny at a catch weight.

PAC faces the best out there and his resume proves it. Actually...it's Floyd who has been labeled a "cherry picker", not Manny. PAC usually sends guys into retirement.... not face semi-retired fighters or guys who are shot.

Floyd only gets more PPV's in the US because he's a US fighter. If Floyd got more attention in the Phillipines that would be surprising......just as surprising as it is that PAC gets more attention and rivals Floyd for PPV buys even though his first language isn't English, he isn't US born and he's not even bordering out country.

 

Bradley over Pacquiao is the sexy pick right now. I wouldn't be surprised if all the predictions end up straight down the middle. Bradley does have a chance though. I smell upset, but I'ma still go with Pac via ugly UD.

 

Wtf...
So if Cotto beats Floyd it doesn't matter because Floyd is past prime?