Brandon Rios vs Victor Ortiz

So, you start a thread with a question, & then act as if people's opinions are wrong? :verysad why even ask then? just say it.

Its obvious you are trolling to make pac's win over rios look better then floy's win over quitiz.


Rios was also schooled against Abril, he won no rounds in that fight. Equally as bad. Please give me your opinion on abril vs rios as you always tend to over look it.

 

:deal

 

50-50 fight, Rios is garbage above 135.

 

Yes but old, shot-to-bits, never-especially-powerful Collazo managed to lullaby Ortiz.

So, not 50-50. Garbage as Rios is above 135, the current Ortiz is worse.

 

Yea, 2010 I got Ortiz. 2014 I got Rios.

But we all know duckmaster only made this thread because Rios beats Ortiz, Guerrero, Canelo, Maidana, yada yada yada and more of Pac's cum gargling out of his mouth.

 

I don't really think so. Even shopworn Collazo is better than anyone Rios has beaten since he was no longer able to drain to lightweight, so it's hard for me to extrapolate as much from that fight.

 

What has shopworn Collazo done except knock out a long-retired confidence-tattered (and jaw shattered), and shabby looking Victor Ortiz?

The last time he meant a damn was the Berto robbery.

Since he got roughed up and outpointed by freaking Hernandez (who makes Rios seem like Miguel Lora), went life and death with Upsher Chambers, had to dig pretty deep to beat Alan Sanchez who's already relegated to gatekeeper status in his early twenties, and proved completely useless against Khan.

 

LOL RIOS HAS more power than MAIDANA? HAHAHAHA ****ing p@ctard

 

You're right, he hasn't done much. Nor have the guys Rios has lost to excepting Pacquiao, nor have the guys he's beaten since he could no longer make 135. Every fighter Ortiz has lost to is better than Rios IMO, and the Berto victory which looks anomalous and unimpressive in retrospect is still also better than anything Rios himself has done at a higher weight.

 

Ortiz that beat Berto was probably the best version, no doubt that one beats Rios. If they fought now, Rios will get arrested for murder.

 

Mayweather didn't ruin Ortiz, Ortiz ruined himself. Once he started losing he doubted himself. He's a pretty good boxer, but he's weak mentally. He doesn't have heart. Once he starts taking a beating, he quits, that doesn't mean he doesn't have skills. He's just weak mentally. He looked promising in the past but he's fallen off, hard. His chin is fine, it's just all mental with him.

If Floyd is so overrated, why do you have to fight tooth and nail to convince people?

 

The version of Alvarado that Rios lost to in the rematch, and the version of Chaves that he fought on even terms with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the version of Collazo that Ortiz was KTFO by.

(and that is the only relevant opponent you can mention for Ortiz, since the Josesito fight - in which, incidentally, Lopez was up on my card before the stoppage - was over two years earlier...and itself was 9 months after the KO by Mayweather)