Breaking: AJ/Ruiz II Officially Confirmed for Dec. 7th in Saudi Arabia, $84 million pot

Yeah I still dont think you're grasping how this works and no amount of explaining is going to help.

 

Being the A-side doesn't revolve around winning mate. It should but it doesn't. The money man is the A-side which is why Gatti was always the A-side even in fights he'd be favoured to lose.

 

Of course your explaining isn't going to help anyone grasp anything.

You haven't seen he contract so there's nothing you can explain.

You can only do what I can do, wait and see how much of a payrise Ruiz talks himself into.

 

It was popularised by Mayweather. It's always been an issue though. Look at RJJ and B-Hop and their ridiculous arguments.

 

It's best to put that idiot on ignore...

 

There should be a "Andy Ruiz Jr. Super-Sized Thread" created to lump all these threads into!!

 

He only got the fight and beat Joshua because he accepted the contract. He needs to remember that and do what he signed for.

 

I don't need to see a contract that had a baked in rematch clause to know that if he's already signed it then there's no further negotiation. Now far be it from me to take Hearn's word at face value, but at the same time neither Ruiz or his team have refuted this have they?

If he's signed it then that's that. Rematch or legal action, or maybe Matchroom give him more, but that's exactly what they would be doing, 'giving' him more. They are not obligated legally to do anything.

Hopefully that makes it nice and clear for you, because right now I'm actually struggling as to how you have come to the conclusion that Ruiz has any say in any of it. You're either being intentionally obtuse or slow to grasp things generally.

 

I’m getting sick of all this contract talk. Let then go to court. Have all the governing bodies strip Ruiz of the titles and see if Hearns still wants the fight or maybe Hearn will then sue the IBF, WBA and WBO for stripping Ruiz though pretty sure none of them signed a contract that says that Ruiz has to be allowed defend their titles in the rematch. In fact don’t they get a say in who fights for their titles? What if they say that Ruiz has to fight their organisations mandatory challenger first before giving Joshua his rematch? Can Hearn then sue them for not allowing Ruiz to fulfill the agreement on the contract that he alone signed but without the consent of the governing bodies?

 

But you do need to see the contract to know how "baked in" the clause is.

And neither of us have done that.

So both of us the exact same understanding, which is none. Both of us will wait and see if Ruiz gets what he wants.

Both of us know Ruiz has already vetoed UK as a destination so both of us know he got his wish with that one. Both of us will see if the fight ends up in America and both of us will see what the split ends up being.

However in this triangle we are both in (me, you, contract neither of us have seen) it is not possible for us to both be obtuse.

 

The thing is, I'd agree with some of this if someone from Ruiz' camp had come out and challenged Hearn on his statement or Ruiz hadn't already been interviewed stating everything was already agreed prior.
Hearn's no idiot, to come out and say Ruiz not taking the fight will result in legal action is a pretty bold statement to make.

 

And maybe Hearn has him bent over a barrel in which case it's all already agreed and Ruiz loses nothing.

Or maybe he isn't bent over a barrel in which case Ruiz has ro to negotiate and loses nothing.

The only way Ruiz actually loses is if he doesn't fight AJ and he gets sued and he loses said court case.

There's no way on earth it will get that far.

 

It’s fair because that’s what he agreed to? He agreed to the 10% split and agreed that MR/AJ would choose location. It’s not rocket science.

There is legislation but no way would it protect Ruiz in this situation.

If you think it would, or you think it SHOULD, your an idiot.

He signed the contract freely, he wasn’t coerced or forced into it, he had full capacity.

The contract is fine, he needs to stop acting like a child.

 

If more career high paydays are on offer I'm sure they won't find it too hard to get people to sign these contracts. Doesn't make it right but that's the reality.

I'd also be apprehensive about reopening negotiations with that slippery devil Haymon involved. Who knows where that could lead.