breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I haven't moved the goal posts at all. Holy simply wasn't one of his top 3 wins at that point. You're just made because it no longer gives you what you wanted and the bottom just fell out of your whole argument.

    Tyson was the #1 contender when Lewis fought him.
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he was #4, but he was still 1-4-1 three fights before Byrd and two after, right? This was the end of Lewis' era and it was a shell of what it had been. This is obvious when a fighter who is 1-4-1 in his last 6 fights is still in the top 10. So thank you aghain for reinforcing my point. :hi:
     
  3. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield lost to Ruiz and Byrd who Lewis ducked earlier. Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis were unable to successfully compete in what is now known as Klitschko era.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    According to some, the heavyweight division stinks today only because a Klitschko is the champion. If Wilder were the champion, the same ones claiming the heavyweight division stinks would claim that the heavyweight division is the best it has ever been. The heavyweight divison stinks only because a Klitschko is the champion and not one of their heroes such as Wilder who is ranked #3 WBC without ever fighting anyone even nearly ranked period. Wilder got that ranking without having to fight for it, which the Klitschko haters approve of so very much. However, Vlad knocked Wilder down with a jab in sparring, beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other. Wilder will have to cheat his way to the title without fighting anyone ranked. A rematch with Sconiers for the title? There is a video of Wilder getting his arse kicked by Haye, someone who Vlad easily beat, Haye ran, held Vlad by the legs, fell down on the canvas, etc. Wilder looked like a drunk while sparring with Haye.

    The same ones claiming that the heavyweight division stinks are the same ones who are claiming that Wilder is the greatest heavyweight of all time. LOL!
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong. Wlad is whats preventing it from being 100% raw sewage.
     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When those posters twist every single thing to suit their agenda than yes, that is what I'm reduced to. :lol:
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: You're obsessed!!
     
  8. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You lost the argument. Take it like a man and stop unnecessary personal attacks.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not one person can refute the numbers!! :rofl
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Derogatory? That was complimentary towards Wlad....I figured a nuthugger like you would be ecstatic! :lol:
     
  11. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once the heavyweight champion defends his title against challengers with records like; 0-0-0, 3-3-0, 6-0-1 then the heavyweight division actually might be as bad as what some people think it is.
     
  12. Beatle

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    Vitali's resume is laughable. He could have fought David Haye and possibly got one great win, but he wanted no part of that haymaker.
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We already established in the Vitali vs. Lewis thread that Lewis has a better resume than both Klits. Tyson and Holyfield alone are better than anyone either Klit has fought.

    Both Klits have fought Lewis's leftovers. Wlad fought Rahman, and Vitali fought Briggs.
     
  14. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so none of Holmes wins were in the tyson era? :thumbsup
     
  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your logic which seems very subjetive on whom you want to build up makes your numbers total **** and im sorry if that sounds harsh but when you put artificial limits based off of your subjectivity to bias the data to make a point the numbers really don't mean a lot after? by your own words Holmes should not count for tyson or definitely tyson to lewis.. so on and so on yet you did but discounted others who would of went against your " results " that you wanted.