breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

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  1. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis could not compete with the new crop of heavyweights. He yielded belts to Ruiz and Byrd without a fight and eventually was retired by Vitali under the threat of losing the last title.
     
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  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong. Those guys were still winning across eras. Holy field was well past it for the Byrd fight without a significant win there after. Really you just need to use common sense and be objective.
     
    JAB5239, Jan 9, 2014
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  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wasn't Danny Williams losing every round to Tyson before Mike hurt his knee? Shouldn't that be a technical win for Tyson in klitschko land?
     
    JAB5239, Jan 10, 2014
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  4. Eule

    Eule Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe Sanders and Solis and of course Lewis, who else?
     
    Eule, Jan 10, 2014
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  5. The Mongoose

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    The true stand out Champions of the last few decades: Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and Wlad all did a good job of meeting a large number of other top 10 RING fighters. Before it is over, Wlad will likely surpass or draw even with them. But this is barking up the wrong tree.

    Since the 50s there has a gradual decrease in rated contenders fighting other rated contenders. Since the introduction of the alphabet era in the 80s its became a game of belt holders vs contenders while matches between two rated contenders with no major alphabet title on the line are rare.

    Fights between top 10 contenders with no major title on the line:

    1990-1999

    Ruddock vs Tyson I and II
    Mercer vs Damiani
    Mercer vs Morrison
    Lewis vs Ruddock
    Lewis vs Butler
    Bowe vs Holyfield
    Bowe vs Golota
    Golota vs Grant
    Spoon vs Mercer
    Izon vs Tua
    Ibeabuchi vs Tua
    Rahman vs Tua
    Byrd vs Ibeabuchi

    2000-2010
    Oleg vs Jefferson
    Oleg vs Johnson
    Tyson vs Golota
    Tua vs Oquendo
    Tua vs Rahman II
    Toney vs Holyfield
    Byrd vs Tua
    Wlad vs McCline
    Peter vs Wlad I
    Peter vs Toney I and II
    Brock vs McCline
    Povetkin vs Byrd
    Chageav vs Ruiz
    Chambers vs Dimitrenko
    Chambers vs Peter
    Arreola vs Adamek

    2011-present
    Pulev vs Dimitrenko
    Pulev vs Thompson

    ....Not any others I'm aware of, lots of upstart contenders that have yet to mingle. Past 3 years have been fun though with Adamek, Chisora, Fury, and Povetkin having good scraps so can't complain.

    If I missed any, somebody bring them up, this is interesting.
     
    The Mongoose, Jan 10, 2014
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  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If that contest is a pie eating contest, then I agree.
     
    fists of fury, Jan 10, 2014
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  7. VG_Addict

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    Except Holyfield's resume is better than Wlad and Vitali's. He beat Foreman, who went on to become the oldest HW champ in history. He beat Tyson who, while past his prime, was still a good fighter. Holyfield's resume at CW absolutely destroys Haye's.

    Hell, even Tyson's resume is better than either Klit's. He was the youngest HW champion in history, and the first man to unify the titles. He beat Michael Spinks and Larry Holmes, albeit an old version of Holmes. And he beat Ruddock and Bruno. I know how much you glorify Ruddock.
     
    VG_Addict, Jan 10, 2014
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  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it really doesn't. Tyson was the WBC's #1 contender, and we all know credence how much stock you put in Vittles WBC defenses so maybe you should stop using double standards when it suits you.
     
    JAB5239, Jan 10, 2014
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  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm loving how aquamoron keeps bumping this thread because he's bitter about getting owned.
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, why don't you try and use the version of Holyfield again who was 2-2-1 to try and score points again...lol, f*going moron! Owned!
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still bumping this thread looking for things that have already been answered. Lol, such a desperate cry for attention! :lol:
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've answered the questions those answers just didn't suit your agenda. Now you want me to keep carrying on because somehow you think you're going to change my mind.. hate to break it to you lil fella, but it ain't gonna happen. Do carry on with your obsession though....its amusing me greatly!! :nut
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    P-S-Y-C-H-O.....seek help son, you're holding on to tight!! Everything has been explained, you just need to go back and open your eyes! :yep
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that the last word or do you want to try again "obsession boy"? :nut:lol:
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  15. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its obvious this era is much worse than any previous era. Hopefully some day the HWs will get back to its glory days but i doubt it.
     
    reed_man02, Jan 17, 2014
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