breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JAB5239, Dec 5, 2013.


  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tell me, was Rocky Marciano or was he not the heavyweight champion of the world? Is he or is he not still rated by EVERY historian or expert today as a heavyweight champion? And I'm so glad you brought a court of law into this little conversation. You have obviously never heard of a grandfather clause. Maybe you should look it up. After you have and still want to argue I can bring dozens of examples to the table to refute any argument you try to make. Its only your opinion those fighters weren't heavyweights, its a fact they were. Now show some honor and never post again as you said you were not. You've just been OWNED!! :hi:
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A division being more exciting doesn't make it a better era, so quit with the lies and propaganda. Oh I forgot...that's what you do! :yep
     
  3. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You have to give JAB5239 credit. When he starts a crusade, he always see's it through. :patsch

    None of his threads die from natural causes...
     
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  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's right mop boy, I never quit when I'm right. :good
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't you ever get tired of looking stupid? The CW division was created in the early 80's, a time you and the rest of the nuthuggers claim fighters were to small to complete today. Damn you need to do some research before opening that mouth! :lol:
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here's the thing: This era certainly 'stinks' in terms of matchmaking and competitiveness.

    Matchmaking:
    * Why aren't contenders matches being sought after more often?
    * Why aren't contenders hungry for mandatory spots (see guys like Dimitrenko/Fury/Solis/Adamek)
    * Why aren't managers more aggressive developing young prospects instead of soft-managing them?

    Competitiveness:
    Wlad shuts down his opponents in one-sided mismatches. Not because his competition is so crappy (well that's my opinion), but because he is so much better.

    If you look at it this way then today sucks just like it did in the 30s, 50s or 80s.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why are you avoiding my last post directed to you? :yep
     
  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why are you avoiding my 2nd to last post directed to you? :yep
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    End of story. You just admitted they were heavyweights. Log off forever, take your shoe laces out and find someplace sturdy to hang yourself from. Whether they would be heavyweights today has no bearing. As youve admitted , they were heavyweights. You're to ****ing easy, I walked you right into that. Now get to swinging by your neck! :finger5
     
  10. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you for proving my point. Boxing had advanced so thet had to create new division to keep it fair.
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't matter how you would describe them today, bet welcher. The fact is other were heavyweights, so the fact is you lost the bet. To bad you showed no honor or integrity, but what should I have expected from a klitard?
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The division was created to put more money in the pockets of the ABS orgs. Nothing less, nothing more.
     
  13. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are not qualified to comment on that since it happened 20 years before you were born.
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kid, just admit you're a liar and welched on your bet. It is not a "MUST" you use the modern definition. In fact its ******ed because they were in fact heavyweights when they fought. Cross era comparison is useless because its all guesswork, nothing is fact. And the grandfather clause owns that lame ass argument anyway....its why you steered clear of mentioning a "court of law" again.

    As far as the cruiser weight division goes...Than why haven't they created a division slow boring fighters? Fact is more divisions are created to make orgs more money. See every super and junior division, many only a few lbs apart.

    I'd suggest you never have children. Its obvious you'd be a liar and a dead beat if you did. You just keep making yourself look stupider and stupider.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The first cruiserweight belt was added in 1979, when the average heavyweight was about 210 pounds.

    The cruiserweight division became important at roughly the same time that Michael Spinks won the lineal heavyweight title. He beat a pretty strong champion. Twice. Spinks was the first LHW to do so since Gene Tunney, so if anything, LHW performance against heavyweights was at a historic high.

    I think sanctioning fees and competitiveness were both considerations, and that we shouldn't oversimplify the issue.