breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JAB5239, Dec 5, 2013.


  1. The Mongoose

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    -No not an opinion. "Year Before" is more accurate than "Year After"

    -I actually broke down Tyson and Wlad juston the other page using the CORRECT "year before" rankings and it showed there was little difference in their resume on this basis. You even admited as much, which is why you moved the goal posts and adapted my "contender vs contender" proposal as your own.
     
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    I don't know what you are talking about here.
     
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    No. I've explained why I rejected your first wager. I will not wager against my own opinion. I can't imagine anything more abusrd. I'm of the opinion that "contender vs contender" match ups have faded out, why would I bet that they haven't? And you are now trying to rub something I introduced and pushed heavily into this thread in my face like its your truimph, what are you on about?

    ex.

    me: "I think Pacman will beat Bradley"

    you: "I propose you pay me if he does win."

    me: "....."

    you:" Ha, you know I'm right."

    Just ass backwards insanity. Lots of luck finding a dementia patient that would accept such a bet.
     
  4. JAB5239

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    Year before isn't any more accurate. For any of the fighter an opponents rank could have go up or down in that time. There is no huge difference in the overall averages...that's what I would bet on. I haven't moved any goal posts, that just your warped opinion because the thread has strayed strictly from the numbers.
     
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    So its your opinion this is a lousy era than. Thanks for clearing that up. Should have just said so from the start.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    -I've only said that "contender vs contender" match ups have steadily declinded since the 80s. I gave no opinion on the quality of any era.

    As for the present scene I already just wrote this:

    If we are speaking of the present, I wouldn't say it "stinks" I think we are just in a transition stage with lots of fresh faces we don't know much about. We'll know more in a few years
     
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    -I've already shown them to be more accurate with several examples.

    -If your wager is about "my method vs your method" you wouldn't have proposed using my method just on the last page for whatever it was you were trying to prove. :rofl Get it together. This shouldn't be so abstract.

    -If your dying to make a bet, I suggest you take the time to really think it out and make it clear what you are betting against. You talking money, but you aren't coming off very serious at all. You are trying to make me out a coward, but frankly, you can't even figure out what the wager is. Do that, before you talk trash.
     
  8. JAB5239

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    This is just your intepretation of what you think the era is. My contention is the era started as long as Wlad has been on top the overall majority of the time. Going by that the era stinks. Using the numbers he's fought less top 10 contenders than the champs of most other era's and this supports my contention.
     
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    I've explained this several times. Get it together and stop being purposefully obtuse.
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    Than do you agree with these Champions as the representatives of their eras?

    Wlad 2006-2014

    Lewis 2000-2003

    Holyfield 1990-2000

    Tyson 1986-1990

    Holmes 1979-1985

    Patterson 1956-1962

    Marciano 1952-1955

    Jack Dempsey 1924-1926
     
  11. JAB5239

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    Just curious why no era for Ali?
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    Because we know Ali and Louis are well above any other Champion in defenses against top 10 fighters. Fruitless to mention them.

    Do you agree with these eras?
     
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    Using the numbers he's fought less top 10 contenders than the champs of most other era's and this supports my contention.

    Think about what this statement means and ask yourself if you are really confident in it, JAB?

    We are talking title defenses against contenders while recognized as the top man in the division. Do you still stand by this claim?
     
  14. JAB5239

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    I agree they're boxing era's, so why leave them out?
     
  15. JAB5239

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    What? I'm not following you.