breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

klitschko needs fight alex leapai kubrat pulev wilder fury then arreola if still fights kauffman an jennings

 

every good fight talked about mess up sethmitchell lose malik scott lose denis boytsov loss

 

The K brothers would be allowed to fight but Ali and Frazier might not be.

 

Let Wladimir fight Ron Stander and 8 pro fight under his belt Leon Spinks then come back and lecture everybody. The heavyweight division has always sucked.

 

I'll go ahead and burst your bubble by pointing this out to you: people have written bad **** about the heavyweight division for decades. You are nothing new and I know damn well I'm not the only long time boxing fan who has been around long enough to tell you, you are completely full of ****. When Holmes was champion boxing writers said it was void of talent, when Tyson was champion boxing writers said it was devoid of talent. Other people on this board have read the same things I've read over the years, in fact, I only go back to 1980 but I imagine some other posters here go back even further than that. "Bum of the Month" is not my invention, believe it or not.

 

they aint never been so fat and as badly conditioned as today. and that is a fact you can see just looking at the fat bodies of fighters today.

so don't lie blatantly.

 

Today could somebody challenge for the heavyweight title in his very first professional fight?

Today could a fighter with a 52-16-2 record fight for the heavyweight title?

Today could a heroin addict be a successful champion?

 

Very doubtful to all 3.

An excerpt from an SI article after Frazier-Quarry II -

By dismantling Quarry in five rounds (Referee Joe Louis—belatedly—stopped it)Frazier only underlined what many had sensed and now know: the heavyweight division is desperately impoverished. It has a champion (George Foreman) who is a big hitter but has no defense against fine print and legal niceties. It has a challenger (Muhammad Ali) whose talent is terribly dimmed. And it has Quarry and Frazier, who will never again illuminate the scene, and there is some question if either can continue—try as they may—to profit from it. The only major fight remaining is Foreman vs. Ali; gentlemen with the big cigars, the well is dry.

The above is an example of what has been written about HWs since ~1900 :yep Of course by putting down this era the OP has a different agenda.
The current/recent era has been the first that can be called world level comp. Odd that US dominance ended so soon :think

 

Exactly.


BTW, I believe the smack head with a title was Michael Dokes, who lost his title to a flabby Gerrie Coetzee ( believe it or not, not all heavyweights were perfectly sculpted physiques back in the day e.g. Greg Page, James Broad, Tony Galento, Ron Stander etc. ) and Coetzee was not highly regarded by boxing writers at the time either.

There are decades of anti-heavyweight articles. To pretend they don't exist is an exercise in futility.

"Mike Tyson is just a blown-up cruiserweight who is benefitting from fighting in the worst era ever of heavyweights. He will be exposed by the first talented big man with a jab he fights" Ring magazine circa 1984.

 

So Povetkin fought for the title his first pro fight? Or anybody else in the heavyweight division for that matter?


Who's the most recent champion to win a title with a record of 52-16-2 ( at the age of 41 years no less )?

 

And he was - by the "great" B Douglas

Butch, the lack of basic historical knowledge by some on here - troll :nut or not - is almost amazing given how easy it is to research a topic on the net :deal