breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe you should read the opening post again as I clearly stated how I did things. You used this same method forvWlad and Tyson, yet not Patterson. So yes, you do have something to correct.
     
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    My number are crystal clear from my opening post which I've posted again above. Wlad 6.6...Holmes 5.12....Tyson 4.4....so no, you're obviously unable to conclude anything. Now how about those true Patterson numbers?
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    -Yeah, I reviewed your original post already and there are no "timeframes"

    -This is getting tiresome. I explained why I broke down Patterson the way that I did. It's my method of breaking down "title reigns" and I had just did the same for Tyson and Wlad in this thread, when you asked about Patterson.

    I suppose you meant for me to just do Patterson your way, but I don't feel the need to continue to indulge in a flawed method that tells nothing and gets us nowhere. Patterson had an outstanding long career that spanned what could be considered several "eras"
     
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    And my numbers are crystal and clear, and are actually consistent. I didn't contradict your method by including Mercer and Tyson to inflate his numbers as you did.

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    Oh, so it doesn't say " I've taken each fighter and listed every top 10 ranked fighter he's fought while being top 10 ranked himself"? Are you lying again Goose or were you just not bright enough to figure it out? Either way you most certainly DID NOT use the same method for Patterson. You're changing methods to suit your agenda. Why not stay with year after or year before rankings as was what you were ORIGINALLY arguing for?
     
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    If I included them they were ranked.
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    -You will find that I've posted that very statement several times in the last couple pages to point out your refusal to follow it for Larry Holmes.

    -What am I lying about or supposedly not too brigh tto figure out?

    -I did use the same method for Wlad and Tyson. Post #753 I was talking about the findings of that post, when you inquired about Patterson.
     
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    But Holmes was not ranked. Do you not understand your own parameters? That would be most distressing and render this entire topic meaningless.

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    Why not stay with the year before method you claimed was so much fairer than mine? You can't because either way comes out in my favor, which is why you won't do Patterson that way. You just keep trying to come up with new ways to discredit that facts and suit your own argument. Sorry bud, but nothing can change the numbers from the fair and impartial way I first provided them.
     
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    Simple mistake on my part. I thought you were saying Tyson and Mercer were not ranked.blind of like your Sam Peter mistake, right?
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    -Because I can't bring myself to continue to crunch numbers in a bull**** system.

    -There's nothing to hide. Patterson actively fought as a top 10 contender from roughly 1953-1972. In that time we have Marciano's reign, Sonny Liston's quasi-reign, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier..etc, a good number of which could be divided into unique "eras" with different key players. On pure resume...just taking into consideration the names he fought without losses being counted against him, the names he faced alone, he would finish as a top 5 guy.

    But it's fool's gold. When people are saying Patterson was a weak Champion or weak era..they mean just that. 57-61. Not his entire 20 year career that bleeds into Ali and Frazier's timeline and considers his days as a tough gate keeper in the twilight of his career. I would assume listing the fighters that simply fought the most names in the course of their entire career isn't the goal of the thread.I would use the RING BEFORE ranking victories to measure Patterson's career, but not argue the worth of an era? Which era? Which decade? The 50s, the 60s, the early 70s?

    If this doesn't make sense to you, that's too bad, because it makes sense.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    I do apologize and correct my mistakes.

    You leave yours and continue to use them as "crystal clear" arguing points.

    Wlad has not been corrected and Holmes likely won't be. You will admit mistakes but than go back and continue to use them as an arguing point. That is not encouraging and leaves me with no confidence in you. I must take leave now. Farewell.
     
  14. JAB5239

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    Patterson was a heavyweight top ten fighter in 1953? Yeah ok!! I know you know what you're talking about, but by jumping the gun in some kind of rush yo make me look bad you make yourself look like a fool.
     
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    You apologize and correct your mistakes, huh? Do you do this before you get into a pissing contest trying to show my mistakes or after I point them out to you and you've been shamed? By my recollection its always been after, so step off your high horse, ok?

    You're really leaving? Wanna bet you will be back after Aquamoron comes in to attack me so you guys can high five one another? You've been done with this thread for two weeks and no longer responding to me, yet you're never done with the thread and have kept responding to me. Were you just telling a little white lie or was that another mistake you have yet to admit to and apologise? :yep