Breaking News: FNF mega-card in the works!

Well, Lacy, Taylor and Tsypko, all on a bad night, are still better than Allan Green.

 

Oh snap! lol

 

I was there live, and outside of some people who were just there to support Pavlik and don't otherwise follow boxing, not a person in that arena thought Pavlik was winning the fight at the point he got cut. I was surrounded by a group of people from Youngstown, including a woman who screamed "KELLLLLLLYYYYYY" at the top of her lungs in my ear every 20 seconds or so, and between rounds, they kept talking about how he really needed to do something big to come from behind and win.

The final scorecards also indicate that it's unlikely that he was winning at any point in the fight.

He had three good rounds in the middle, but he was pretty flummoxed outside of that.

I'm with you that Pavlik isn't a natural middleweight though. He's a bigger fighter who drained himself pretty badly to make 160.

 

Pavlik was behind on the scorecards but was looking to be on a rallye in the mid rounds. Then, the cut happened. He was still behind at the time. Would the fight have been the same without the cut? I don't know.

 

Brinkley is a waste of time for Bute IMO.

 

That's true. The problem is he has time to waste.

 

I can be wrong but I think you're overestimating Pavlik's current popularity.

Surely HBO isn't very interested in having Pavlik unless he fights a good opponent. The tickets sales for his fight with Martinez were also pretty bad. Only 6100 were in the Boardwalk Hall that night and we don't know how many of those people actually paid for their tickets. If I remember correctly the tickets sales were pretty bad for his last two fights in Youngstown as well.

Pavlik marketability isn't that good at the moment and it won't improve by fighting on shitty Top Rank "Latin Fury" PPVs. Pavlik's fights need to be available to the casual fans so they can remember why they liked him in the first place.

For this reason, fighting a decent opponent on a ESPN card which can potentially be watched by +1,000,000 viewers beats the crap out of fighting on a Top Rank PPV. Even if the money isn't that good.

Same thing applies to Bute. Interbox were quick to shift to PPV instead of free tv when Bute's popularity sky rocketed after be became a champion. At that time over 1.2 million people were tuning in to watch his fights in Quebec alone. That's more then what HBO get for some of their shows in the entire United states. Since then Bute's popularity has been stagnating in Canada. How can you expect to make new fans when they can't watch your fights unless they dish out 60$ for the PPV?

 

That's a good idea...
done, no more insanity, thanks for tips

 

Bottom line, Kelly can make much more money than he will get on the under card of a fight with Bute and Andrade in other fights. I doubt he would make as much as $100K. You keep throwing up all sorts of 'stuff' that is not relevant. Last time, Bute may be the center of YOUR boxing world, but that doesn't mean much else where. Let's not forget that he may be under contractual obligation to HBO and vice versa? You are talking ESPN here. His first fight at a higher weight will garner some interest, it will depend on WHO he fights just how much. Now if he loses poorly at a higher weight, FNF may look like a good option. Until then? No.

 

Some news about Pavlik.

Reliable sources have advised yourmama.com that former middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik is seriously considering the possibility of staying at 160-pounds. I've heard Pavlik and his team have discussed the possible direction of remaining in the middleweight division.

Back in May, Pavlik waived his option for an immediate rematch with Sergio Martinez. Pavlik's manager, Cameron Dunkin, announced his fighter's decision to move up to super middleweight.Pavlik lost a unanimous decision, and his middleweight titles, to Martinez on April 17 in Atlantic City. Pavlik's had a real struggle making the weight. Reportedly he lost 13-pounds in two days to make the middleweight limit.

Despite the constant struggles, there is one key factor - he still made the weight. Not only did he make the weight for all of his fights, but he made it without a nutritional expert and/or a first class physical conditioning trainer in his camp. I've heard members of his team are considering the option of adding a physical conditioning expert to evaluate if Pavlik is physically capable of making the middleweight limit safely.

The road at super middleweight is not paved with roses. HBO is interested in making a fight between Pavlik and undefeated IBF champion Lucian Bute. The style of Bute is going to present Pavlik with a lot of trouble.

Besides a potential fight with Bute, HBO has no interest in lackluster matches. To get back on the network, Pavlik will have to take a very risky fight. One name I've heard mentioned, that HBO would approve, is Librado Andrade. It's no picnic to fight Andrade. Unless Pavlik is able to hurt or get Andrade's respect in the early rounds, it's going to be a very long night.

If Pavlik is capable of remaining at middleweight, there are several options, which includes a rematch with Sergio Martinez, or potential fights with Paul Williams, Anthony Mundine or even Felix Sturm.

 

pavlik bute would be ridiculous

 

True, but Bute has to step it up and some point. He might actually take Kelly on points, ya never know.....

 

You lazy dick. Just include the information in the first post.

Boxrec only has Bute-Brinkley listed by itself on October 10th.

Per Google, the first few hits are B-Scene and Fightnews and neither is about a mega-card.

edit: OK found it, it was a Scene article but not one of the top hits. Pavlik vs. TBA and Andrade vs. TBA? That's a mega-card? TBA could be nobodies for all we know! It could be Pavlik vs. Ravelo and Andrade vs. Gilbert.