Breaking News: Nevada Commission Could Renew Mayweather-Paquiao

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  1. cris3000

    cris3000 Active Member Full Member

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    This is what Conte had to say:

    In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone. Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO, cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization. This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight.
    One, I think that increasing hematocrit levels, whether it’s by traditional blood-doping or the use of EPO, is of greater benefit to a boxer than the use of growth-hormone," he explained."So growth-hormone is more of an anti-catobolic agent that may help to accelerate the healing of the tissue repair process. But growth-hormone is not anabolic as an anabolic steroid. It’s an anti-catabolic agent and I believe that you don’t get a very big bang for your buck. I’m not a huge fan of growth-hormone. I don’t think it’s tremendously beneficial performance enhancing substance.
    "EPO, though, in terms of boxing, is absolutely huge, both in training and as well as in a fight, especially during the later rounds."


    I doubt anyone in the sport of Boxing can argue against Contes' knowledge about drugs tests and such.
     
  2. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Bump two times.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could it be that if an athlete knows that they will be testing blood, they're not going to be idiot enough to do HGH????

    Thats why you do both urine and blood.......the blood ensures that the tempted cheater does'nt do HGH.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats not going to happen if Manny is cheating.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. The IOC has been doing blood HGH tests for 3 Olympics now w/o a single positive. They actually use urine as their tool for testing EPO. This is why the search for a reliable HGH test came about, and the method is thru urine using nanotech.

    Ok saying you should do blood testing to ensure a cheater doesn't do HGH when they already know you can't detect HGH is borderline ******ed.
     
  6. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're a lunatic......you're the one that said they use blood tests to test for HGH, and now you're saying they cant detect HGH with blood tests.

    You said it, not me.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: :rofl

    The existing test for synthetic human growth hormone, which aids in recovery and muscle development, involves blood samples. It has been used at the last three Olympics but has yet to flag an athlete. The NFL and Major League Baseball have funded research the last few years to find a urine test for HGH because such testing is seen as less invasive than blood testing.


    "We are always excited about possible new technologies that may be developed that will advance anti-doping science for the benefit of clean athletes," USADA CEO Travis Tygart said in an e-mail Tuesday.




    Whoa look, Tygart is happy.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-12-10-new-hgh-process_N.htm
     
  9. cherokee

    cherokee boxfan Full Member

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    "IF"

    the burden of proof is with the mayweathers
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Correction, its no longer with any Mayweather.

    .......the burden of proof is now with Pacquiao, because if this fight does'nt happen, you better know that after any Pacquiao appearance anywhere he goes in the world, he's going to be asked why he was unwilling to submit to random testing to prove he's clean.

    ......and this hogwash about not wanting blood drawn from him because it will weaken him is not going to wash.

    ......of course, the USADA does blood testing to US Olympic athletes so that they can be weakened!:nut:roll:
     
  11. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    Its so hard to test for a natural hormone.. especially when exersize and diet regimes can increase dramatically HGH naturally during training. There are legal supplements to increase HGH levels if you combine other foods and certain exersize. Pac has a dietician who would know exactly how to do this and all athletes know about these techniques.