Breland Wilder`s trainer doesn`t believe he beat Fury

Lol they talking like this is something new,truth is you can put Wilder in with any pro boxer and he gets outboxed albeit he finds the KO

 

I didn’t listen to the video, but reading all of these comments about Wilder needing to make changes to his style is quite strange.

Let’s get it into perspective- the guy knocks people head off. Potential opponents like Breazeale, Whyte etc would be annihilated by Wilder, no changes needed. I’m also pretty certain that he will land on AJ first and take him out- again no changes necessary.

Fury however is a very awkward fighter, with a great defensive radar and Wilder would have had him out also, but for the intervention of the man upstairs.
In a rematch it’s 50/50 what happens.

The point I’m trying to make is, Wilder is what he is - a technically flawed fighter, but against 95% of opponents his immense power gets the job done no question. Not a lot needs to change with him IMO.

 

You shoulda listened to the video. Your questioning it all but thats Wilders chief coach there saying those things. Its great that Wilder can knock the heads of 95% of his opponents but those opponents are bums. Those opponents dont know how to defend, react, counter, learn, read a tell. These bums dont have good footwork, dont know how to step in or step out and because they dont know how to do these things Wilder finds it easy, and because they dont do these things Wilder doesnt learn.

Wilders had 41 fights, he isnt really going to change now and apparently hes never been overly interested in listening to his coaches either. Fair enough but now hes stepping it up fighting the likes of Fury he is going have all his troubles exposed, Which he did. Even gatekeeper Ortiz exposed him and nearly beat him. Its great having the power, and he certainly has the power, but youve gotta land the power and if its guna take him 12 rounds v Fury he needs to make sure hes got the defence to make sure hes not getting knocked out himself or losing round after round on points and he cant really manage any of that either. If Fury had any more power than he does he would of stopped Deontay.

 

Reminds me of Kov and the snake JDJ. They both come out of it looking stupid unless tie's are severed after that admittance straight away, its cracks in the team for all to see, a weakness.

 

Its all getting a little messy for Wilder. He knows he lost the Fury fight or he wouldnt of had to make up 54 excuses which contradict themselves. Also his coaches have had enough cuz they knew this time would come eventually and Wilder would struggle. I think Finkel and Wilder made a mistake taking on a half fit good fighter they should of stayed on form and rematched Malik Scott or something while screaming about the good fighters from a safe distance.

 

Not only did Tyson beat him, but hes given him depression after it. He needs to get down the doc's and just come clean (like a smack head would) and admit it, spill the beans !

 

His flaws were exposed in the Ortiz fight when he was nearly KOed, and in the Washington fight where he was outboxed by a former NFL player, and in the Szpilka fight where he was flailing at air and falling over his own feet, and in a ton of fights before that where he was made to look wild and amateurish and hittable.

If Wilder truly considered this a wake up call he wouldn't be making a ton of excuses or trying to spin things to make it seem like he won. He's basically trying to rewire his memories of the experience to maintain his ego rather than directly admitting to and addressing his flaws. He's had too much smoke blown up his backside to ever admit that he might actually need to work on something, and even if he did somehow gain that miraculous epiphany his entire body is already engrained with a million bad habits that'll each need to be ironed out, and frankly that's an impossible task for any trainer to tackle, regardless of the time frame they have to work with.

 

ROFL!

 

I wasn't aware of the disrespect, but if that's the case then I have no sympathy with Wilder's predicament whatsoever, and fully applaud Breland's coming clean with this. Wilder should just stick with Deas if he's not going to listen to anyone else. At least what little Deas can teach him will be retained (possibly).

That's very eye opening. I already recall Wilder telling an interviewer that boxing skills were unnecessary, or something ludicrous like that, and even among all the dross Wilder routinely spews that came as quite a shock to me, displaying as it did a mindset even more out of touch with reality than I had thought. It comes as no surprise that Wilder would dismiss the importance of footwork. In his limited mind I imagine that all that matters to him is the knockout. It likely doesn't occur to him that things like footwork are intimately tied up with that.

He more and more comes across as a complete jackass, and I'm frankly astounded at how far his handlers have managed to bring him considering the mountain of resistance they had to work with.

 

I full agree. The draw only serves to give Wilder a lifeline to spin a narrative around which will cocoon him from owning up to the fact that he in fact lost the fight and needs to change his entire attitude to the sport. But I can't fault Wilder for not wanting to admit that everything he is up to this point needs an almost total overhaul. Not only is that an impossible task at his age, but it would undermine his entire persona as a fighter, and likely utterly destroy his confidence. It's a weird situation. The draw won't help him to improve, but it won't break him either, and I think from Wilder's perspective it's the better of two evils.

 

Well, in a manner of speaking everything needs to change for him, but realistically nothing should be tampered with barring minor conditioning and strength issues. Wilder is basically stuck in stone at this point, and the most anyone should do with him is make sure his self-confidence is high and that his conditioning is up to scratch. After that, let the cards fall where they may.

 

Boxing skills are unnecessary if you’re only going to fight guys ranked outside the top 20 or if you know the judges have taken your promoters shilling! The difficulties only come when your handlers have hugely misjudged your opponent!

 

Wilder did not get the decision, but saying that in round 12, that knock down results in stoppages much more than not.

Wilder was the one who truly could've won any second of any round and came so so close.

That was an exhausted Wilder too. Swinging and missing so many fight ending shots zapped him almost to wlad during the Brewster 1 fight.

If Wilder truly takes his time and doesn't worry about the highlight KO he can put in so much better a performance, while i whole heartedly believe that was the best fury we will ever see.

He was quicker than VS wlad or really VS any past opponents. Wilder fought the absolute worst possible performance he could have put forth..

And Wilder was still able to figure fury out and now that he knows the speed and agility of fury IN RING it's now become a mismatch with only one possible outcome..

The above is why I know fury will do everything to not have to fight Wilder ever again.. Fury is a smart fighter and person, well, he's not dumb and he knows the gift h he got from the ref by letting him continue.

The next couple years will prove me correct, like every single thing I predict

 

This is true, too. And it's that success that will stop him from making many (if any) adjustments next time around.

Punchers are often the most stubborn, frustrating fighters to train, and Wilder falls right in to that. In his mind, he hit his home run shots in that fight, so the motivation to adapt just isn't there.

He is what he is, which is a very dangerous, at times sloppy fighter. And honestly, at this point, he may as well stick with it and ride it out to whatever outcomes happen. I don't think he's going to magically have a change of heart at 33 or even that it'd make him much better it he did.

Flaws or not, a lot of his dangerous qualities come not just from the power, but the confidence and never say die attitude he's got. What Breland says makes sense, but as weird as it sounds, Wilder is probably better off with a cheerleader who keeps his confidence high for the last stretch of his career. The time to change and grow was years ago.

 

Im surprised this doesnt get mentioned more below

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Tell me what you think Lou Dibella said and listen to what the commentary said he said after. All within the 30 seconds time above

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