Breland Wilder`s trainer doesn`t believe he beat Fury

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  1. Aston Villa

    Aston Villa Active Member banned Full Member

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    Bit of a gulf between Whyte and Breazeale don't you think lol.. Wilder has to get Whyte out straight away or he'll kill him to the body, and the jaw aint takin that left hook. Ortiz is way overrated and Fury had been out 3 yrs, them aside everyone else is dog shite
     
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  3. Manfred

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    Fact is that he knocked all those fighters out and the conversation was geared more towards the knockout than his need to improve. In the aftermath of the Fury fight, the focus was on his skills or lack thereof more so than anything else. I don't subscribe to the idea that people can't adjust because that is a losers attitude and whatever you say about Wilder, you can't say that he is a loser. He don't have to be built from the ground up, he just needs a couple of fundamental changes in his approach. One is mental and the other is technical. Like I said, he wants to win and he wants to be great, he now truly understands that he has to adjust and any trainer worth his salt should be able to work with that mindset to effect change.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Breland was nowhere to be seen after that fight lol!

    He must have been mad

    THE FIRST straight right hand Wilder landed with something on it dropped Fury dead. I bet Breland walked out then.

    Breland is legit, he ain't the one we see on the camera during the pre-fight shows it's all jay.
     
  5. sauhund II

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    Another Wilder hater marathon.....

    Almost Ko'ed against Ortiz ? LOL, he never went down and walked straight to his corner.........the Bodybuilder hit the deck hard against shot Grandpa WK and was literally dead for several rounds and still glass chinned safety first WK was afraid to engage....

    This so called Boxing Genius Tyson Fury, the spoiler of all spoilers who generally stinks the joint out, who thinks raising his arms between rounds wins him the round and gets dropped hard multiple times was never ever busted up down stairs and upstairs including almost ko'ed in his entire career like in the Wilder fight.......that was the BEST Fury who will ever enter the Ring, he spent almost a entire year in the gym and fought two cans to get the rust off but make no mistake that was a Fury who was even better than when he shut out WK but he went life and death with this so called "bum""fraud" "uncoachable" "idiot" etc etc Wilder.........funny thing is, Fury took Wilder a lot more serious than the idiot posters in this thread.........

    Fury took tremendous punishment in the physical and mental department in that fight and he is not so keen to a rematch, bank on it.

    Super stiff AJ cannot and never will be able to avoid Wilders incoming like Fury did............he WILL get clipped and WILL stay down that is the sole reason that fight will not be made in the near future.

    Whyte and Breazale are your basic zero defense Heavybags, both take career beatings against Wilder ..........

    My favorite stay busy fight would be Povetkin so Wilder can put the Russian Hype job out of his misery and we never ever have to hear from that bum again.

    However, I concede there is improvements for Wilder to be made......if and when there is a Fury rematch he needs to hook his right from underneath almost like a uppercut while Fury dips.........guaranteed KO or Knock down.
     
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  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder is 1 and 1 in relevant fights. He's lucky he's not 0 and 2. Fighters don't survive at HW with top level unless they improve. Wilder hit a wall already and was saved by the bell months ago in his FIRST real step up.

    Either you are a fanboy or just haven't watched boxing long enough?

    Wilder hasn't annihilated anyone worth mentioning , the guys you named would all have more then good chance of defeating him and it's going to get harder for Wilder dealing with every guy in title fights because like you, he feels he doesn't need to improve.If he had fought Joshua at any point after Klitschko he would have been embarrassed and had his lights put out before mid rounds.
     
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  7. bailey

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    Nobody else surprised by this?
     
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  8. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldnt disagree more there mate, theres so many flaw in this post its scary, normally id try a debate but my guess is your not open to different opinions?
    So if you dont mind clearing up a few things...
    Ortiz didnt nearly ko wilder iyo, what was the reason the ref had his corner look at him, as if he was cut?
    I agree if wilder hits aj like he hit fury in the 12th i dont think he gets up, but aj will come forward alot more as wilder leaves alot of openings, do you think aj can ko wilder?
    Iam suprised you would call povetkin a stay busy fight, hes a massive risk for anyone especially wilder. Would you think a stay busy fight against povetkin would be wise if he were to fight fury/aj next? Dont you think pov would be his best win to date?
    Do you think he should of worked the body against fury some one who abused his body for years? Do you think he was advised to by his team?
     
  9. sauhund II

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    Povetkin was a fraud even in his prime while hiding in Russia claiming he is not "ready"......he has never beat ANYBODY of note unless you call a shot to shid Byrd, freaking Fatty Chambers or marco Huck stuff of legends......he stepped up twice and got man handled twice even against glass chinned WK who zero defense Ross Purrity and lamon Brewster simply walked down... even caveman sam Peter did better than the Russian Hype job.......if you think Grandpa Povetkin is a serious threat I have some Ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell to you.

    AJ is stiff as a board, no way in hell is he avoiding Wilder money punch for the duration plus AJ will under no circumstances come out guns blazing, he will try to fight a tactical battle but will be betrayed by his chin.

    The Ref took it on by himself in the Ortiz fight, Wilder walked calmly back, took his 1 min rest and was ready to continue at the sound of the bell...he gave zero indication that he wants to fold tent...how can you fault Wilder for a over anxious Ref ?

    One more time, you are falling for the Fury BS, he was in the best shape of his life, you aint getting up from vicious knock downs and take it in the face all night long as evidenced by his busted up face when you are not in shape.................Buster Douglas took a hard trip to the mat from Mike Tyson but was able to get up due to mental/physical top notch conditioning while a similar shot from Holyfield made him stay down because he was grotestic out of shape.

    Wilder has to adjust to throw short uppercuts or underneath hooks when Fury dipps and pivots, he cannot miss even if he tried.
     
  10. The Long Count

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    I mentioned this weeks ago and now it says video unavailable. IS this where Dibella before the official verdict was read told Fury his fighters opponent that he won the fight.
     
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  11. The Long Count

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    Bingo. Wilder starting to believe the inflated headlines. Good thing his management steered him clear of all threats for forever on way up.
     
  12. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get what you say about Joshua not coming out all guns blazing i completely agree with that but he will come forward, he has to. He's not going to fight on the back foot like fury did he hasn't got the reach for a start.
    He comes forward to close the distance and take away wilders only weapon, he comes forward to work on the inside.
    Joshua is just like any of the other top fighters out there he uses the first few rounds to figure out his opponent,but he does it while taking rounds.
    i fault wilder the same as every fighter is faulted when he is given an advantage on home soil.
    no chance fury was in the best shape of his life and you know it,it's impossible for him to have been. He surprised everyone but he exposed wilders lack of ability and ability to adjust.I
    Is Ortiz abetter win than povetkin would be,I don't think so he never had a title shot until wilder povetkins only loss was to wk in a title fight that he had some success in.
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is what Wilder needs bigger guys or guys who were tall to show him how to punch. Hearns might be able to show him some good moves also. He has to listen. The only way he will get better.
     
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  14. Angler Andrew

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    Impossible at this stage,I’m sure Breland has tried his best but Wilder is always gonna revert to his old ways on the night,we’ve been saying for ages that it if someone can survive to the end it’s likely they’ll win.

    Very honest of Breland to accept he lost or ought to have lost albeit by a second.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

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    Will he still work with Breland after this admission by Breland? At this point if he cannot learn, why have Breland? He should listen. Breland would know.
     
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