There's a lot of posers there waiting to get their heads punched off their shoulders. Every single one seems to have adopted a hands down, chin up style. It works for some people, but you can't be teaching people to box like that from the get go. Work on fundamentals and IF they develop this style naturally then it should be taught. Just look at the video of some examples of how this training doesn't work for a lot of people.
i think he copyrighted/patented the lines so they could not be copied by another gym... also i hear he wont even let you spar until you master the lines, but thats a good thing, getting the basics right, ive seen folk spar, not knowing the basics of movement and they dont know what to do when there in trouble, how to move out
i think a set of lines is only a bit in the ingle puzzle, they are inventive trainers, they have thrown the mold away, i remember a boxer called mick mills from their gym, he never had that style, though he could still fight, but in an agressive style that suited his ability, styles rub of on boxers, just like people develope acents for their area, some it will suit more than others. A lot of trainers get boxers who are already molded, try to tune them a bit better, the ingles build the full piano.:good
as talented as ingle fighters are, i think an intelligent more technically correct fighter is just gonna pick holes in their game.
Graham invented/learnt the style, but the Ingle's certainly did a good job teaching it. The whole lines thing, its mainly about good balance and good movement to find angles. There's nothing magical about it but I suppose it makes a good enough training tool There is definately technical flaws in the style, MAB exploited them in Hamed, Bradley/Alexander in Witter. The original Graham seemed to make it work technically the best out of anyone but mixed it up too much for own good at times 1 thing that shouldn't be underestimated is Graham's influence on Hamed/Nelson and both those men's influence on Witter. Brook looks the most technically solid since he moved on. I don't think its any coincidence it isn't prolific as it once was 1 thing Wincobank is the general lack of sparring and the focus on bodysparring where you can't hit the head. I'm not for throwing kids in the deep end but there comes a stage where you need more hard sparring
a lot of ingle fighters are very avoided, also a lot of fighters train and spar there who fight out of other gyms. The best advise is to go and look for yourselves, sparring there is no walk in the park.:good
This is a bit of a myth mate. I've seen plenty of open sparring down there. Sure, they don't want to get lads bashed up but there's plenty of open stuff.
See Pele Reid against Orlin Norris. Reid was schooled in the Ingle style - and had Ingle in the corner that night. Day in day out - Reid was probaly training on the bags and pads with his hands down by his bollocks. He was probaly even sparring with 15 year old boys - with his hands down by his bollocks (in Ingles gym the top pros spar with amateurs, etc just to mix it all up) However come fight night - its foolish to come out fighting against a fringe world class heavyweight operator with your hands down by your bollocks. atsch Orlin Noriss KO 1 Pele Reid.
Bit more in-depth footage: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YoG2Qy3HM[/ame] Starts at about 1:45 (also shows that the training routine begins with footwork, lasting for 20 minutes).
I think with Ingles gym though - theres some interesting traning methods but it comes with alot of bull****. All his philosphies and and that garbage.