Brilliant idea on how to deal with shakur stevenson type boxers in the sport

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Forza, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    How about judges stop scoring rounds for guys who only run backwards, hold, and do absolutely zero damage during the round. Has anyone ever thought about that? Or are the judges in the bag too?
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  2. Svoboda

    Svoboda New Member Full Member

    Jan 22, 2022
    Judges are definitely in the bag. Will always give the decision to the most marketable fighter (especially WBC). To be fair I would have given Stevenson a draw for his performance, also to set an exeample for fighters thinking they win a "fight" by throwing two jabs and running away.

    To me, that is not the definition of "fighting". And also for respect for the people that bought the tickets...
  3. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 21, 2017
    The U.S. seems obsessed with these types though? Runners are lauded as 'practioners of the sweet science'. It's quite bizarre.
    Just look at the praise they heap on Andre Ward. An absolute abomination of a fighter yet they wax lyrical about the guy.
    I'm with you, excessive backwards movement should be point penalties.
  4. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    Two judges gave DLS 5 rounds. That tells me that they were actually scoring against Stevenson's antics. Had DLS been able to simply cut off the ring and mount any semblance of offense, he probably wins going away and we aren't having this discussion.
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  5. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 21, 2015
    What's funny to me is that the same people criticizing Stevenson will argue until they are blue in the face that Loma got robbed against Haney. He did the same thing Stevenson did until late in the fight.
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  6. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Guys like this, particularly if they have distinguished amateur careers, will always get the benefit of the doubt for their non-combative antics as judges will erroneously see this as "sweet science" wizardry.

    This is nothing new. As others have said Lomachenko got all kinds of benefit from judges on these grounds and Mayweather before him too - among many others.
  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 26, 2012
    Not exactly. I'm in the U.S. and people keep clinging to finding the next Floyd...but they don't grow on trees. As we're seeing most "boxers", that is - hit and dont get hit specialists, are a poor man's Floyd in that they defend well but dont counter punch or generate offense.

    Floyd was a killer at 140 and below. He tried to hurt and beat up opponents. By the time the DLH fight came around his hands were already shot and he pretty much became a pure boxer, but he still hit his opponents flush w jabs and right hands and defended beautifully.

    These guys like Haney and Shakur and Plant (and whoever else) are nothing like Floyd.

    I get annoyed that opponents dont steamroll and bulldog these guys but oh well.
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Sep 15, 2009
  9. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

    Aug 18, 2019
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  10. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 20, 2011
    Just don't pay to see them. I wouldn't pay a dime to see Stevenson fight again
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior VIP Member Full Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Latter Floyd syndrome
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  12. Diagoras

    Diagoras Member Full Member

    May 25, 2012


    They aren't going to change scoring criteria or judges to please Boxing fans online.

    He will continue be pushed as the future of Boxing by Top Rank & the shills in the industry, too late to step back now

    The only power you have is not to tune in even if the fight is on "free" TV, save your time & tank the ratings for Shakira's stinkers
  13. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2017
    Carl Froch, is that you? Just kidding. Andre Ward had an ugly style, but he definitely was not a runner. Shakur, or is it Shakira Stevenson, should be ashamed of that performance. I wonder what Bud and Bo “Big” Mac think about it.
  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 6, 2014
    Protest with your eyes and wallet - only way to stop them stinking the joint out
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  15. Diagoras

    Diagoras Member Full Member

    May 25, 2012
    Bud already justified in a post fight interview saying that he got the win & that's all that matters, something to that effect

    He should know, he did something like that against Postol & got boo'd. This was on his first PPV & he wonders why he never became the big star