Brilliant idea on how to deal with shakur stevenson type boxers in the sport

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  1. steviebruno

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    Maybe, but we won't ever know because DLS didn't do anything to invite the discussion. He landed 40 punches in a 12 round fight, yet was given five rounds.

    There's no actual point in crying favoritism here.

    They both sucked.
     
  2. lufcrazy

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    I did feel free to call you out as I disagreed with your post due to lazy generalisation.

    Label me however you like, ultimately means nothing. In the thread I posted my scorecard, I scored it for Lomachenko myself. I also scored the first Castillo fight to JLC.
     
  3. hoopsman

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    "Lazy generalization".....Translation= I criticized a fan base your sympathetic to.

    Disagree all you like, my guy. Only one of us here is operating with any consistency on the central issue of fan base bias (and here's a hint...it ain't you).
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    Well you did criticise both fans of EE fighters and Floyd TBE fans. But your language when doing so is different, probably because you belong to the former not the latter, so it's not what I'd call consistent.

    In terms of consistent, I've consistently called your generalisation lazy, because it is.
     
  5. hoopsman

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    Oddly enough, fans of EE (or British, for that matter) fighters hardly share your sentiment, particularly when I am defending American fighters (usually black) from their disparaging comments.

    And yet you've still never "called me out"---not even mildly-- for my "generalizing" of EE fans. Indeed, quite the contrary, you actually commended my acknowledgement of that particular fan base bias.

    If you didn't have double standards, my guy, you'd have none at all

    But perhaps you are indeed consistent---consistently selective in your faux outrage and consistently full of sh*t..
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    I commended you for admitting your bias, yes, it's honourable. I labelled you lazy for generalising, yes, it's lazy.

    Any generalisation is lazy. Had you said "I believe Floyd beat Castillo no matter what the Loma TBE Yo fans think" I'd call that lazy as well.
     
  7. MVC!

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    It’s clear ydksab

    Moving backwards is important in defense, clinching is also a huge part of the sport lol
     
  8. hoopsman

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    I commended you for admitting your bias.... Well, how magnanimous of you.

    Unfortunately, in that particular exchange, I did no such thing. Rather, I was referencing the bias of some EE fight fans towards American fighters. Not my bias, their bias. Gotta keep up, my guy.

    You had an opportunity to accuse me of "lazy generalizations" when I mentioned the bias of some EE fight fans toward American fighters. Not only did you not accuse me of "lazy generalizing"---as you did when I accused some Floyd TBE YO fans of bias against Loma-- you commended it. LOL

    Couch it in whatever high-handed language you like-- but we both know damn well that the only reason you accused me of "lazy generalizing" in one case (and not the other) is because your partial to that particular fan base.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Like even now, you're being lazy in your generalisation.

    But like I said, well done on owning up to your bias. Many don't.
     
  10. hoopsman

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    And even now, you're demonstrating your dubious, highly selective use of the term "lazy generalization" as well as your inability to comprehend basic English (which is hilariously ironic, given that you are in fact a Brit. Though I must confess, I've found the British wit on here comically overrated).

    So this seems as good a time as any to call a wrap on this exchange in particular (perhaps you'll have better luck with your next "call out") and posting here in general. I've grown rather bored with both.

    Cheerio!
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Thanks mate. I do of course accept it.

    Happy holidays.
     
  12. J Jones

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    Bud beat the brakes off of Postol. He knocked him down twice and completely discouraged him from initiating his own offense. Although he failed to push the issue with Postol, his decision to cruise is way better than Shakur’s fight with De Los Santos.
     
  13. J Jones

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    Ward was definitely “crafty” whenever he needed to be.
     
  14. Diagoras

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    I agree that fight was way better than this stinker but fact remains that he got boo'd for cruising & that was PPV. Just highlighting that fans have very high expectations when they are paying

    If you want to be the "face of Boxing" then you gotta entertain the fans. There are some exceptions like Floyd who put on snoozefests (in his Money phase) but still sold a lot of PPV's but there are extenuating circumstances (like the fact that his biggest sells were against other stars like ODLH, Pac, & McGregor) but exceptions are just that

    Shakira is a featherfist & on top of that he doesn't want to let his hands go against any guy with decent power

    If you want to fight like Shakira, Richardson Hitchins, Rigo etc you are welcome to but fans won't be tuning in & like it or not, they are the one's who ultimately pay Boxers not the morons on this forum who justify every stinker with "hit & not get hit", "sweet science" etc & then proceed to illegally stream the card
     
  15. BonoBoss

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    The commentators are a huge part of the problem. They have a tremendous amount of influence on how the match is perceived by the common viewing public, which in fact is their primary function, to influence without making it obvious. The amount of unwarranted adulation they heap upon their fighter can make even the most devout believer a skeptic.