~Bring on Adamek-Haye~BEST heavyweight fight that could be made!

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Nowhere in the picture? Then why did Klitschko's people contact Adamek about stepping in for Haye when he bailed on the June 20 fight?

    And Haye might well go after the belt holders, and that's admirable, but he is looking for a payday. He doesn't believe he could beat either Klitschko.

    If he really did, than why did he bail in negotiations with Vitali to choose the easier route in Valuev?
     
  2. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    ts a good job he didnt step in for Haye as he would be be kod to ****.. and in quiker fashion than haye! Main reason being he takes too many shots, against the klits that is doomed for failure!

    Haye i fancy will beat Wlad, too fast and with that fragile chin one straight right and goodnight Vienna or shuld that be Kiev! ;)
    Vitali is a different kettle of fish..has good chin and power ALTHOUGH hes getting old and slower plus his stamina seems to be lacking. Toss up!

    He bailed on vitali because has getting double the money to fight Valuev..UK PPV ;), and without all the contractual obligations.
    Haye has an agreement to fight Ruiz but after that Vitali seems to be the target... Golden boy and Sauerland seem to be co-operating
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, hilarious...you either underestimateHaye or overrated Adamek. Probably both.

    Adamek is too much of a warrior to beat Haye, or in fact, any big heavyweight puncher. He gets hit far too cleanly and far too often. His defence is poor and his chin is great but not granite. He can't take bombs off Haye and he can't hurt him either.

    As for Hopkins, he would have totally schooled Adamek. He probably chose Dawson to prove his dominance at that weight and stay there, rather than bulking and coming down in weight. 175lbs has been his natural weight for years, so he would fight there after either Dawson or Adamek so it makes sense to stay at 175lbs.
     
  4. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    If Golota has a glass chin, what about David's ? 90% of boxers would not stand and take so many powerpunches and still were on feet. No offense to Haye, I like him a lot, he's entertaining to watch, maybe not in his last fight, but generally he is. But his chin is like 'made in china' in comparison to Golota's. Haye could not havet stood more than 3 clean powerpunches of Adamek.

    I give them both 50% of chance, but my heart says Adamek. The Ring expert, Doug Fischer is also for this fight, maybe boxing community will open eyes and notice it's worth to pay them nice paydays, than watch Haye against Ruiz who's not as much entertaining as Adamek, also ain't got such fanbase. In marketing way Adamek-Haye would sell much better than Ruiz-Haye, I also reckon in sport way coulda been better as well.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I'm right and you're wrong.

    What skills does Adamek possess that makes you think he would have beaten Valuev easier?

    Haye is faster
    Haye is a better boxer
    Haye is the better outside boxer
    Haye is more agile
    Haye has more power
    Haye has better footwork
    Haye is bigger

    The advantages Adamek has, chin and stamina for two, would not make him win the fight any easier.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye has never been demolished like Golota has been. The Lewis and Brewster fights were a joke.
     
  7. WelshDevilRob

    WelshDevilRob Active Member Full Member

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    Golota was shot to pieces and inactive when Adamek beat him - to suggest anything else is naive.

    Adamek is the guy that got clearly beaten by Chad Dawson. Yet somehow this fighter beats David Haye.

    Not in a million years.
     
  8. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye is the guy that got knocked out by Carl Thompson.

    Yet somehow this fighter beats Tomasz Adamek.

    Just no.
     
  9. WelshDevilRob

    WelshDevilRob Active Member Full Member

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    11 fight novice was Haye when he fought Thompson. Adamek was in a title fight. Study up, sonny.:patsch
     
  10. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They both made enormous progress since their first and only defeat. Only a ****** could say otherwise.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't have time to get into this right now, as I need to get ready for the radio show soon, but I think this is a faulty statement based on two pretty bold assumptions.

    Why can't Adamek withstand Haye's bombs? And what makes you think Adamek cannot hurt Haye?

    Anyway, if you guys want to hear my thoughts on Haye, the show starts in just over an hour and will kick off with an interview with Paulie Malignaggi.

    :good

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/On-The...sode-47-Guests-Paulie-Malignaggi-Shawn-Porter
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i support it but it should be called : undisputed supercruiserweight championship of the world and receive a golden silvery belt with black and red emeralds from Jose' Sulaiman.
     
  13. Jack

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    Well Adamek has been hurt in the past so I don't think it's truly granite, which it would need to be considering the amount of flush shots he takes. He takes too many square on this chin and against any puncher, he will be stopped over 12 rounds. Unlike Haye, he does not have the agility or body movement to avoid these shots. His guard isn't great.

    I mean, I really don't have to point out Adamek's technical flaws defensively. We all know it's substandard.

    I really do doubt whether he could take 5 rounds of punches from Haye at heavyweight. Haye hits too hard. Itd be a brutal massacre. Adamek has no chance.
     
  14. calumbo

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    Theres no point in putting out your view mate..it will be shot down by a pole/adamek fan without any consideration.
    They have blind faith in there boy and reckon hell knock haye into another planet..personally i think hes good but vastly overrated by some on here particuarly poles!
     
  15. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Maybe at trowing 'dem Haymakers:deal