Brit Forum Debate: The Boxing Insiders' Contempt For Boxing Fans

I agree.

And not just for the people working around the sport - like Maloney and Hearn , etc.

But the boxers themselves - there are alot more comfortable industrys and businesses to be involved in to make a living - than all the discipline of making weight, etc and then getting punched in the face.

Boxing is a dodgy business.

 

Post of the month. :thumbsup

 

Have you read the General forum lately? :yep

Seriously though, I agree with what you're saying. It's generally the elders of the sport not wanting to change, they'll get pushed out by a younger bunch eventually anyways. I like how MMA have even the smallest of shows on the net for fans to watch, since MMA basically expanded all because of internet promotion it's another example of how boxing can learn from it.

 

I'd rather wipe my own arse but I'd thank the two latino promoters for their kind offer.

 

The Internet makes us all think we are experts, and can voice our opinion and for many be deeply offended if it is not taken as gospel.

The reality is boxing has always had to rely on politics.

The majority on the Internet want things yesterday and have no patience, boxing at its best simply does not work like that. Promoters knew that making people wait for what they wanted increased the appetite for a fight, and thus made the fight that bit more special.

Many of the alleged fancy on the Internet want everything free as well, they do not want to pay, that is simply not playing the game.

I think the Internet fancy has got far too much of what they want. There is too much access to, too many fights for too little cost.

In this country we rarely got the big fights live on TV before the 80s, and even then sometimes you had to go closed circuit. ITV did wet our appetite with some cracking fights, and SKY continued the good work into the mid 90s, then people got too greedy, and expected to see everything, for next to nothing.

This greed started with mainstream access to Internet. The Internet fancy ripped open boxing's Pandora's Box, and the sport now is in decline, with no hope of recovery.

We (the Internet fancy), really are to blame...

 

Apologies for snipping your post TBooze but people (youngsters!!!) who think that waiting a year or two for Mayweather-Pac or Haye-Wlad is the end of the world should read that paragraph!!:good

 

Unfortuntly my friend, you are a rare exception to prove the rule.

Before the Internet and SKY PPV's I used to go to at least a fight a month. But since an incredible 8 days (Benn/EubankII and Lewis/Bruno), I have been to two local shows and I went to Audley/WilliamsI.

Sure that is in part because of marriage/kids. But we made the effort to go to Audley/WilliamsI but the buzz was just not the same.

I just get what I want on SKY or PPV; I'm am a lazy fan, I am not prepared to invest in the sport anymore, because I can get my little buzz of it by going on this site/youtube etc...

And unlike your good self, GazOC and a few others around here, I am in a big majority of lazy bums, who can come here and preach and moan...

The Internet could of been a brilliant learning tool for this sport, sadly, it ruined it.

 

T-Booze the last time we spoke you were advising me to find another sport after a questioned the fact that Howard Clark was allowed to fight on until he contracted dementia at the age of 40.
That line of thinking got me immediately thinking you are well involved in the gears of boxing at some point.
This post seems to confirm it. The only people who are calling the freedom of information in the sport of boxing a bad thing seem to be the trade.

I agree the part about every one wants things done instantly in this day and age but that applies to everything. Football is a great example.

As for making people wait for fights makes them more worthy? The legends fought far more regularly than the fighters of today.

How can not having access to a fight in this country be a good thing?

It may have been a good thing for the fighters and teams when opponents were brought in with no background on them available to the general public and they turned out to be ****.

..and now we the people discussing this unpopular sport are to blame for it's decline...

 

Have fun then!

 

Some fair points there.

Freedom of Information is in a ideal world a brilliant thing, but unfortuntly people need to have a grasp of the context of the information for it to be a benefit.

Too many people just take a black and white snap shot of stats. A fighter who is 25-0 is good, someone who is 10-30 is terrible...

But boxing is not that simple and sites like boxrec do not come with that sort of warning, and thus you do end up with people claiming to be experts with information they have not got a clue about.

 

I'm on my soapbox, moaning, I am like a pig in ****.:yep

 

You'd lost me mate. I was agreeing with you (I think!!). Theres no "big picture" for some people these days where potential matchups are concerned.

 

I do not see how the Internet benefits the sport. Boxing was never stronger than it was in the 80s, and that was down to Terrestrial TV making superstars out of the very best the World and Britain had to offer.

Now a days, because of the Internet, fighters who are simply not worth the effort can get too much publicity and this help push an in-superior product on the public.

Because when these fighters then get a bit of TV coverage the casual fan is led to believe they watching the best, and too often this simply not the case.

I know many on the Internet do not believe it, but Managers, Trainers and Promoters do know talent, and if there was no Internet, we would have a much healthier sport, with the top fighters getting the recognition they deserve, and the lesser talent, being put back in their place.