Brit forum thoughts on Eastside World rankings

Well Dawson's gonna fall because Pascal is gonna smoke his boots :hat

 

Firstly, that was at 168.

Secondly, have you actually seen the fight Rob? Murat looked like **** and was gifted the decision. Campillo clearly outworked him and deserved the nod.

 

The ones in bold don't deserve to be on a P4P list or at the position they're at. That's insane. I love Cotto and Mosley, but they've done nothing to merit P4P status. And Williams? A loss to Martinez by a reasonable observer and to Quintana. Ward? Come on, off the back of beating Kessler?

There's just so much nuthugging in there...

That's my problem with P4P. It just encourages bias and hating.

 

Fair enough, I still don't see how a very debatable win over Campillo at 168 gets him rated over the 2 I mentioned but their your rankings.

If you have to go by the result why doesn't Theophane, who just beat your No.9 ranked WW (I think you said he was 9) make the top 15? :huh Bit of a contradiction if you choose to accept some debatable results and not others.

Other spots I don't agree with is Diaconu still at 7......lost clearly twice to Pascal and hasn't had a fight/win since...Mora as a top 10 MW? Why?

 

this is true however Darchinyan is a multi weight champion.

 

I don't agree with P4P since it tends to be wish fulfilment rather than objective analysis. Any P4P with Donaire, Williams, Dawson and Mosley above Montiel is pretty mental. Montiel has done more and beaten better fighters more consistently than the above.

That would be my objection. I love Cotto, but really it's only the Foreman fight that's shown him regaining some form. We need to see him against someone better to really measure his recovery.

Mosley had looked poor since beating Vargas the second time. The Margarito fight was a great performance, but not enough to put him so high. Plus he lost to Cotto.

Ward has done nothing to merit P4P inclusion. Kessler wasn't P4P, plus he'd looked poor prior to the fight. Beating Miranda and Green, a pair of also-rans, isn't good enough.

It's just fanboy love.

 

And Donaire's done nothing since, while Darchinyan has beaten Mijares and Arce since, with titles at multiple weights as you rightly say. Donaire's a great talent, but he's there purely for the Vic win.

 

I agree.

This is maybe down to the fact that there was no big fights for him left at Super Fly and for some reason the Darchinyan rematch never happened.

the Bantamweight division is looking good now that he's moved up.

Hopefully sooner rather than later the rematch will happen, if not then Donaire should start with Hasegawa, Kameda or Agbeko.

 

Montiel would probably just be outside of my top 10. His recent form has been decent - He had that great win over Hasegawa, who was rated in plenty of peoples top 10 before the fight, but he has a very debatable TD to Valdez (where Montiel was pretty much battered after the 1st round) and quite a bit of fluff in his record.

 

Ward is so blatantly superior to Dawson, it is amazing Americans especially are so suggestable to anything the media tell them that they can see it the other way round.