Brit Forum's Mexican Tribute Thread......**Pipino Cuevas**

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  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Vicente Saldivar
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Ruben Olivares
    4. Salvador Sanchez
    5. Miguel Canto
    6. Carlos Zarate
    7. Rodolfo Casanova
    8. Baby Arizmendi
    9. Juan Zurita
    10. Kid Azteca

    Too much trouble differentiating between the modern day Mexican trio and Ricardo Lopez to place any of them on the list, but I've got no issues with anyone who has any of them in the latter half.

    Saldivar continues to be one of the most underrated fighters of all time. One of the greatest champions in the history of the Featherweight division.
     
    El Bujia, Aug 24, 2011
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  2. Moe Greene

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    See, there's 3 serious contenders that I didn't consider :good

    As per Trio Vs Lopez; skillset, Finito looks better than any of 'em, but all of their resumes are so far superior I have no problems putting any of them higher :good
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 24, 2011
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  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, too much of a conundrum picking between their proof in comparison to Lopez's skills and dominance. Then there's the issue with just splitting up the Mexican trio themselves.
     
    El Bujia, Aug 24, 2011
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  4. Moe Greene

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    Yep, not entirely happy with my placings of them to be honest.
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 24, 2011
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  5. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Barrera, Morales, JMM, in that order, Barrera Morales is pretty close IMO, Marco Obviously won the Trilogy and has solid wins over Naz, Tapia, Ayala, McKinney, Fana but Morales has that big big win over Pacquiao aswell as Jesus Chavez, Junior Jones, McCullough, Kelly, Ayala and his first world title over Zaragoza. I think he was very unlucky not to get the nod over David Diaz to become Mexico's first 4 weight world champ and could still do that next month.

    These outweigh drawing and closely losing to Pacquiao, Katsidis, Diaz x2 and Casamayor which are all good wins and Marquez is a pleasure to watch but i couldn't rank him above Marco and Morales

    :good
     
    LP_1985, Aug 25, 2011
    LP_1985, Aug 25, 2011
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  6. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Been looking into them 3 Mexicans uput in your 7th 8th 9th.

    Baby Arizmendi:

    ''Arizmendi's superior boxing and effective body punching enabled him to win almost every round...Fighting with a broken left wrist from the second round, Arizmendi gave one of the most courageous exhibitions in Mexican ring history."

    That was against Henry Armstrong. Also i noticed this ''World Featherweight Title (California version)''

    can any1 shed any light on this :think

    Thought for World WelterWeight Title weighing 136 LBs

    turned pro at 13 (some even say he was 7:yep)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d30AmnyQz_c[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMTGSozL38&feature=related[/ame]
     
    LP_1985, Sep 12, 2011
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  7. Flea Man

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    Armstrong was around the Lightweight limit for his Welterweight title fights :good

    Arizmendi was a quality fighter, and got a few victories over Armstrong though he lost the series. Fought great opposition, extremely tough and holds notable victories over other brilliant fighters such as Newsboy Brown, Tommy Paul, Freddie Miller, Mike Belloise, 'Chalky' Wright and Fidel LaBarba.

    He never held THE World Featherweight championship. What he won is no different than being a 'titlist' nowadays. He was one of the best Featherweights of his era in a great one, and one of the greatest Featherweights of all time.
     
    Flea Man, Sep 12, 2011
    Flea Man, Sep 12, 2011
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  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I think I uploaded one of his fights to WVBA a couple of years ago.
     
    GazOC, Sep 12, 2011
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  9. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    cheers guys:good

    which fight was it Gaz, can u post a link if poss
     
    LP_1985, Sep 12, 2011
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  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Yeah, I've only seen him against Armstrong, Gaz :-(
     
    Flea Man, Sep 12, 2011
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  11. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    going to look in all these in the coming weeks

    7. Rodolfo Casanova
    8. Baby Arizmendi (abit more)
    9. Juan Zurita
    10. Kid Azteca
     
    LP_1985, Sep 12, 2011
    LP_1985, Sep 12, 2011
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  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Well, no better excuse than to watch Zurita against another UNBELIEVABLE fighter in Midget Wolgast HIGHLY RECOMMENDED VIEWING :deal

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr_c4FaGrsg[/ame]

    :good
     
    Flea Man, Sep 12, 2011
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  13. GazOC

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    Its the fourth Amstrong fight. Doesn't seem to be seeded anymore though..
     
    GazOC, Sep 12, 2011
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  14. Flea Man

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    youtube??? Pleeeeeease ;-)
     
    Flea Man, Sep 12, 2011
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  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Right. I'm on nights this week (ie plenty of time off in the day) I'll U/L this, Darcy and Bramble-Mancini for Mand over the next few days!
     
    GazOC, Sep 12, 2011
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