British fighter

Hes Welsh, he fought Englishmen in England many times which is a more hostile crowd than most americans have ever faced.

 

GTFO! u just said yoursef u didn't like Hatton & Calzaghe even tho they were both world champs. Why should champions have to go out of their way? Plus they get bull**** contract terms. Plus they have to build up a rep before any U.S. tv network would want the fight.

 

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ekar fighters don't have to earn Americans respect, theres no difference from earning respect in one country to another. While you may have a point with JC i do think he could have done more, i do have full respect for him and think he is (was) a great fighter.

What annoy's me is that many American's on here feel you have to fight in America to make it......thats bullsh*t! For me it is the quality of opponents that matter, as long as a fighter fights quality opposition it doesn't matter where the fight takes place to me, its all about the fight.

Good example is the Haye and Wlad fight, its no less big cause the fight isn't staged in the states.

 

Yeah Micheal Grant was the guy to dethrone the boring Brit Lennox.....we all now how that panned out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3e3mbKeVbM

Another example is U.S commentators........... When Honeyghan beat Curry... the announcers were saying the Fight should be a N/C and that Curry only lost because of a headbutt........leaving out the near domination by Honeyghan for the rest of the fight.

Also Benn only beat the G-Man because Benn butted him (well a graze of dreadlocks)

 

Las Vegas and MSG is the pinnacle of the sport..... but it's only a place, it isn't anything to do with gaining American fans respect..... I'm sure foriegners are more bothered about having the support of their own countrymen

 

Where is this bull**** comming from, that BRITISH hate american fighters?

brits, just like boxers that takes risk. They didn't like hopkins because he never left his country fighting easy opposition. His holding and hitting style didn't help.

If he would have probably fought archie moore when he had his 0 and then Dawson, a lot more people would have been converted to a hopkins fan including ekar.

I hated PBF before back then. It wasn't until he fought pinky /perky and dopey people started respecting him. If you look at guys from other country, they had to earn their respect.

Lennox did not get the Americans respect until he was 137 years old.. He did it by fighting anyone, his zimmer frame helped him get in the ring with.

Marquez won people's respect carving out his own career with good wins. His suppose to be pinoy's public enemy but even Philippino's got to respect him. Pacquaio earn his respect. by fighting Sasakul in thailand (natorious for robbery, Ledwaba in two weeks notice, Barrera by steping up in weight and facing top 3 p4p at the time, Marquez second time (which his style is all wrong for him), then Two weight to fight Hoya. Weather you think the win was good or not the point was he Pac at least took the risk and fans love him for it. In contrast Hoya mostly played it safe, always trying to get an advantage which made a lot of latino fans to turn against him (sorta sounds familure hopkins fans but without as much big names). So not sure what you american fans are complaining about. Sure American's cuts American's boxers a little more slack. But in the end every boxer has to earn their respect sooner or later.
By the way Im a big fan of bugs bunny from day one. But if his opposition becomes daffy duck /speedy gonzales and goofy. Im out of his Bandwagon.

 

It was something Jim Lampley eluded to in the documentary after Lewis vs Tyson, in that there was still, at best, a grudging respect in the US for Lennox Lewis and all he had achieved..... but it must be said that Lennox wasn't all that popular here really.

Yes the crowds turned up and chanted his name, but against Bruno he was soundly booed on entrance to the ring and throughout the fight, though he was granted respect at the end, given that Frank had put in a career best performance (it was IMO) and it still wasn't enough.

From then on, he was much more popular, but still not that much.... perhaps because he campaigned mainly Stateside from then on.

It would be an interesting subject actually, which British (and European for that matter) fighters do the Yanks respect the most, and why..... perhaps there would be some interesting conclusions?

 

I agree......

Lewis never got the credit he deserved here, full stop.

But after beating Bruno he won a few hearts, then with the Holyfield saga which he handled very well...... it was only really when he beat Tyson, a win that is ridiculously overhyped by British media and CASUAL fans alike that he got something like what his achievements merited.

I suppose I am biased, because he was my favourite fighter, but still.......

 

I think the non-love for Cal in the States had more to do with his attitude: very dismissive of Americans. I'm more used to Welsh saying they're not British, rather than the other way around - did you really disavow any pride you may have had for Cal because he's Welsh?! atsch

I assume ekar's trying to make the point that he respects boxers' records, though the original post makes it sound like there's a small amount of bias there. I remember the nastiness America had for Lennox, too, but the racist bias here is much bigger than the nationalistic bias; in recent years, I've often heard cheering for fighters brave enough to come all the way out to the US. :bbb

Good point about Hoya going a stupid route to try and keep Latino fans ("I promised my wife I wouldn't fight any more *fill in ethnicity/country*" :roll, while Pac gained Mexican support the hard way and certainly not in that Hoya or Joe Cortez calculated and false-sounding manner. I still can't fathom how Hoya thought that beating the "Mexicutioner" would win Mexico over! :huh

 

BHOP fought twice outside of the USA. Once in Paris and the other against Mercado in Central America I think.