British fighters need to step up at 20 - 0 , not 40 - 0 then get beaten up

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rayrobinson, Jun 19, 2011.


  1. Wicksy

    Wicksy Member Full Member

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    Lol at all the Americans bascially saying their B rated fighters are any better than Euro B rated fighters. Like hanging around in Europe fighting contenders is any worse than fighting contenders in the States?!?

    You seriously think "Euro Bums" as you call them aren't the same level as the over hyped B class in the states!?!

    You fight at your level, here or there is no difference. However, Boxing is a business. It's hard to get a shot! Not only do you need to be highly skilled, you need to be in demand and able to sell tickets! In your early career your promoter is key. The promoter is responsible for building your profile. The promoter sees fighters as Entertainers like Pop Stars or Movie stars so the promoters aim is to make the fighter sellable by increasing his profile. Having losses before you're challenged at the highest level makes selling the fighter harder.

    This isn't a UK think, it's a Boxing thing.

    All the promoters want to hang onto the Champion fighters so when they promote a fight the undercard is also made up of their fighters. It's like the minor leagues. You think ****** or any other promoter is going to let his up and coming fighter fight in the US under another promoter? Where he may get robbed before he's peaked? Do you think the US promoter wants to risk his up and comer not fighting one of his stable? Would the US promoters allow it the other way?

    This leads to unknown fighters on either side of the Atlantic. And unknown fighters don't sell tickets.

    The US is a bigger market so historically even when a UK/Euro fighter does make it as a Champ, they still can't always get big fights in the US as their profile isn't high enough. US fans like watching US fighters (or US related ethnic backgrounds) and fighters they have heard of. The US fans don't want to watch US fighters fight a Euro fighter they have never heard of and so the money is less as there is typically not as much interest in that fight. This leads to a poor risk reward for fighters on both sides.

    You think US promoters wanted their cash cows to fight Joe Calz when he was obviously skilled, but not in demand in the US (or UK until late in his career) so wouldn't have sold millions on ppv and easier fights with more money could be made? You think the US promoters wanted to risk Hatton coming over to the US beating their up and coming fighters and in the process ruining their careers/ability to sell tickets?

    You never get the dual promoter deals until the fighters are at their reletively highest peak earnings wise and where it makes sense to join forces.

    Just because they're not fighting US fighters, doesn't mean they're not hard fights! It's more likely the very biggest fights can't be made yet for the reasons in the paragraphs above.

    This is changing though (1) due to the Internet and the ease to watch fights from all over the World i.e. more knowledge and interest in more fighters. And more importantly (2) the UK has had a resurgence in Boxing interest. This makes UK fighters among the most profitable fighters to fight. You will see UK/US match ups a lot more in future as UK fighters sell tickets!

    All the Olympic stars (DeGale, Gavin, Groves etc) will likely be $1m+ per fight fighters if they get a World Championship. US promoters with fighters that can't sell out their living room will be lining up to fight them and complaining they want their underserved 50-50 split!!!
     
  2. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Huh??