British fighters who have suffered the most painful defeats

The Soto decision was a disgrace.

''It was either a DQ or a point deduction, so I had no choice but to DQ him''

Bearing in mind he was going to stop the fight for the fighter's wellbeing, why bother with the DQ - if I was the fighter I would have been embarrassed.

 

Perhaps Cortez watched the tape of Hatton against Urango to learn for the signs of a Hatton clinch. This is the sort of homework a world class professional ref should do, just as a fighter would.

 

No, he clearly tried to up the intensity though, as he wasn't winning bar a stoppage. In reality that meant wild lunges and no defence. He could've simply taken the decision by going into survival mode, but he went out on his shield.

And whatever you think of Cortez splitting them you have to concede he was WAY too early at times - be fair, he was, he even broke them once when there was a foot of daylight - and then when he lets Hopkins get away with exactly the same thing... frankly, it stinks.

I don't think he should have split them so much, and I think Hatton's tactics are perfectly within the rules, but it's open to interpretation like anything else.

What should never happen is a ref goes in with a plan, that's just beyond belief. He should simply ref what he sees, but Cortez clearly was not going to let Hatton work inside ad had made his mind up to jump all over him before the fight. The Mayweathers did a number on him pre-fight, the dithering old twat that he is.

Floyd won fair and square, all ends up, but Cortez was a ****ing joke.

 

Still doesn't mean he would be correct in breaking the fighters before a clinch though does? He's not there to pre-judge what he thinks is going to happen, he's there to ref the fight as it unfolds.

I've no complaints over the result but Cortez did not ref that fight (or his next 2) well at all.

 

Please tell me that post is tongue in cheek.....:roll:

 

Absolutely, completely and utterly wrong.

You referee what you see, to deliberately give yourself ideas of what a fighter may or may not do beforehand is simply prejudicing how you will ref the fight.

You're fundamentally wrong on this one I'm afraid.

 

I don't think they are perfectly within the rules. Holding is illegal and I'll direct you towards the Marquess of Queensberry rules that states no hugging is allowed. We've had this discussion before, but don't shoot the messenger.

He was early at times. Preemptive clinch breaking.

Hatton's work is open to interpretation if anything. How much of that is actually legit "inside fighting" I'm not sure. Or well, I'm quite sure, and at least 50% of it isn't. Holding and hitting is completely illegal, as bad as a rabbit punch, something else he isn't adverse to during his "inside work".

I have no problem with inside fighting, but the greatest conveyors of this artform stand toe to toe with their guard up, and work angles. Holding is not an integral part of their gameplan.

 

Recently -

Michael Hunter vs Steve Molitor

Michael Brodie vs Injin Chi rematch.

Williams vs Klitchsko

 

Maybe, but I'm just exploring explanations for Cortez' behavior. We can not rule out that he is a visionary at this stage.

I think he did a good job in that fight overall. 9/10, 1 point deducted for preemptive clinch breaking which is not ideal.

Calzaghe/Borenard I'd score him a 3/10 based on the inconsistency shown between the two fights

Soto/Lorenzo 0/10

 

Brodie vs Scott Harrison.

 

He was exposed vs Jones. Some started to question his heart. Barrera was a fine boxer but he didnt take to well when things didnt go his way.

 

Scott Harrison beating the living **** out of McCullough, also I seem to remember Morales lamping **** out of McCullough but could not stop him.

 

My favourite most painful defeat for a British fighter may well be Gary Lockett getting thumped by Pavlik. He well and truly had it coming.

 

I think it was the arrogance of Lockett and the fact that he was very dismissive of 'proper' titles like the British and European.

Also the fact that he didn't deserve his shot in the slightest :deal