British Forum BETTING thread

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Mar 1, 2009.


  1. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does seem an odd decision as he is mandatory ... in Audleys case he needed a platform to push his career back on track but Hide is next inline for a world title shot .

    Ah well hope he wins as had a touch of 10/11 earlier in the week .. :bbb
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I've been racking my brains trying to figure it out. The only things I can think of...

    I'm not sure what his financial situation is these days. He made a lot money as a heavy but he's a bit of an oddball, isn't he? Might have pissed it away. 20,000 for knocking over a few overmatched opponents might look quite good.

    Or, he has actually been in line for an eliminator for ages. He's been on the doorstep of a title shot but his German people don't seem that bothered about getting him in there. He's never quite been taken to in the UK, perhaps he wants to get a bit of momentum behind him to get his title shot, this could be a way to impress the TV people and get some press.
     
  3. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he was declared bankrupt not too long ago so definitely needs the cash and his promoters in Germany dont seem to be pushing him for the world title fight and he cant be earning all tht much knocking out journeymen so he probably sees this as a quick quid with a view to possibly signing for Hearn?
     
  4. Боксёр

    Боксёр Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anybody likes Hide to KO his first opponent ? I see he has been stopped twice in just 9 bouts , former taekwando guy ...
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tempted by the 1/2 on Dickinson based on boxrec and internet articles - but really I am not touching **** here.

    Based on the Hasting Rasani link. Dickinson beat him comfortable, Williams lost to him comfortable. Dickinson beat Grainger (3-1) who KOd Rasani in 1 round.


    From what I can gather Williams is a come forward fighter, with decent power. He was however countered-to-**** against Hastings...whoever.

    Dickinson is a fast fighter, with good amateur pedigree.



    Here is the talk...

    "CHRIS BURTON and David Dolan have both been losing Prizefighter finalists. Fellow North East fighter Jon-Lewis Dickinson, from County Durham, is looking to go one better by winning the £32,000 prize in Prizefighter: Cruiserweights II, at Bethnal Green’s York Hall on April 30. The 23-year-old is the only unbeaten fighter in the tournament and is happy with his career to date.
    “I can’t complain, I’m unbeaten in five fights and it’s only really recently that I’ve properly dedicated myself to the sport,” confessed Jon-Lewis. “I’ve always trained but now I’ve totally decided that this is what I want to do and I know I’ve got to put 100 per cent effort in.”
    Before throwing his hat into the professional ring, Dickinson owned an impressive amateur career – a former England international, senior ABA cruiserweight champion in 2006, and a winner over the likes of Tom Dallas and James DeGale. A KO loss to Tony Bellew (2005 ABA heavyweight final) is put into perspective when you consider that Dickinson, in his first year as a senior, was competing at an unnatural weight.
    At 5-0 (0), Jon-Lewis – whose sparring partners have included the aforementioned Dolan, Dave Ferguson, brother Travis, and talented Cuban Luis Garcia – knows he’s a relative novice in the professional game but, when it comes to Prizefighter, he’s turning this into a positive.
    “I definitely think that, with me not having that much experience in the pros, Prizefighter is going to suit me down to the ground because it’s very similar to the amateurs with the three-round format,” stated Dickinson. “I’m sparring loads, running every morning, and am in the gym twice a day so I’m fit, really looking forward to it, and just can’t wait for it to start.”
    Dickinson has past and present experience of some of his fellow Prizefighter competitors, with his points victory over Doncaster’s John Anthony 7-11 (5) in the pros (January 2009), and a loss to Welshman Wayne Brooks, 5-2-2 (2), in the amateurs (“The referee stopped the fight after I’d had my nose broken even though the doctor said I was Ok to continue – revenge would be sweet!”).
    Further fuel for the form guide is that Dickinson and his Prizefighter quarter-final opponent Leon Williams, 4-1 (2), have a common opponent in Hastings Rasani 23-49-4 (16). Jon-Lewis, in his fourth fight (10 July 2009), beat the experienced Zimbabwean while Londoner Williams, also in his fourth fight (6 December 2009), suffered defeat.
    A look at Prizefighter history shows that the competition is often unpredictable and entertaining and 6ft 4in Dickinson forecasts that this second cruiserweight contest in the Prizefighter series will be another exciting affair.
    “[Herbie] Hide’s obviously a big name, he was good back in the day when he was winning a world title, but he hasn’t fought for a while,” John-Lewis added. “I saw [Mark] Krence when he boxed Audley Harrison but, to be honest, don’t remember anything about him. Many of the other lads, though, are similar to me in not having had loads of fights and, all in all, I think the line-up makes for a good contest.”
    What is certain is that, in a sport where personal marketability can often correlate with opportunities and earnings, winning Prizefighter raises a fighter’s profile. It’s within this context that Dickinson, who’s both unassuming and confident, is relishing the chance to compete – and hopefully win.
    “My strengths are my speed and boxing skills. I also work people out quite quickly and can change and adapt to different styles so that will work in my favour,” Dickinson analysed. “Obviously Hide’s the favourite because of his experience but I wouldn’t have entered if I didn’t think I could win, it wouldn’t be worth losing my unbeaten record for. I’m going there to get the Prizefighter title and truly believe I can do it.”
    When he’s not training Jon-Lewis likes to spend time with his family and the fighter who first walked into a boxing gym when he was 11 is ultimately determined to be one day reflecting on a professional career that’s been as fruitful as his amateur one.
    “My children [Ben and Ella-May] are a big reason for me to do well in the sport – I want to make them proud,” he declared. “Ultimately, when I’ve hung my gloves up and am looking back, I want to at least have won national titles and if I didn’t think I could do it I wouldn’t be in boxing.”





    Leon Williams is ready to use Prizefighter as a platform to launch his professional career.

    The 26-year-old Londoner insists the Cruiserweights II tournament, live on Sky Sports on Friday, will be his passport to the big time.

    And although £32,000 is up for grabs, Williams says it is more important to his profile and wants to follow in the footsteps of previous Prizefighter champions Martin Rogan and Audley Harrison, who have both gone on to bigger and better things.

    "It's a big opportunity for me to perform and look good for the crowd," he said.

    "It's not about the £32,000 for me. It's all about what it does for me afterwards and it will get my name known and see me pushing for titles.

    "The money comes and goes but winning this will secure my future and my career. This is a big step up for me but I'm ready for it."

    Shocked
    Williams, who is one of the youngest in the eight-man line-up, has won four of his five professional fights to date.

    He admits that all the pre-tournament attention will be on former world heavyweight champion Herbie Hide, the biggest name on display at the York Hall slugfest.

    But with the favourites rarely justifying their billing over the three-round format 'Solid' believes he has what it takes to steal the headlines.

    "Everyone talks about Herbie Hide but all the talk will be about Leon Williams," he said.

    "I was shocked to see Herbie Hide in it but he has to get paid like us and I will take the fight to whoever is in front of me.

    "It's not about people's history, it's all about on the night of the fight. I will try my hardest and give it my best shot.

    "Boxing has become my life and boxing is also my job. I bring punching power and excitement and I'll put my opponents under loads of pressure. I won't give them time to breath and I'll be on top of them at all times."




    But yeah...I am sticking to my betting rules from now on...

    Rule 1 - Do not bet on a fight where you have not seen one or more of the fighters actually fight.

    Rule 2 - Boxrec reports are not seeing a fighter fight.
     
  6. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jon-Lewis is poor. I'm surprised he has been made 2nd favourite by the bookies.
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Kos you were claiming him and his brother were the boxing equivelent of the Laudrup brothers

    Don't chicken out and deny it now :hey:deal:deal:deal
     
  8. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You've got it wrong mate, I rate his brother highly, I have always maintained Jon-Lewis is poor :D
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I know I know ;)
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    My 100% record in the World T20 has gone (or will shortly) in the first match.

    Usually the Sri Lankans are my bankers.... though the Kiwis are my dark horses.

    **** knows who to pick when they are against each other :-(
     
  11. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They have that nack don't they?

    Sri Lanka need to improve their fielding from what I have seen. NZ have taken a few 2's too easily
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yeah NZ looking odds on now. NZ odds were evens a minute ago despite them being in a very good position. Things can change in 20/20 though...a couple of wickets in a few overs and 8 runs off them and suddenly things are different.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I'm not watching the match, but NZ were 1/6 on Betfair five minutes ago..... back to 4/7 now.

    It's too much of a lottery really, you can be quids in or out in a flash.

    The best thing to do in a match between the major teams is back the underdog.... if you are risking plenty layoff at half time.
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    When it was 33/1 NZ were evens or near enough on 365. That was the time to back them if at all, was tempted but didn't in the end. I'm not doing this 20/20 stuff, ever again.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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