British Forum BETTING thread

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Mar 1, 2009.


  1. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jeff Lacy at 10/3 is worth a punt.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hmmmm.....

    Ramprakash is (along with Hick) THE biggest disappointment in English cricket in the past 30 years.

    There have been emails from English fans demanding his recall for the last Test :nut

    Key for Bopara is a must. There aren't that many outstanding candidates for the #4 spot to replace Bell.

    I'd expect the selectors to stick with him on the basis of his half century in the last Test.... ignoring the fact that he was stone dead LBW to Johnson after scoring about 20.

    Kos - what are the odds for Jones by stoppage?
     
  3. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An RJJ win by stoppage is 5/2.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Ramprakash and Hick may have thrived in this era. They never really felt like they had the confidence of the selectors, with cushy central contracts and the mollycoddling backroom team we now see I think their fragile mental psyches would not have been so often exposed, and their natural ability would more often shine. Ian Bell averages 40, you can't tell me he's got more bottle or more talent than either.

    Not to mention the bowling was a hell of a lot better around the world in their era. These days WI, NZ, Bangladesh and to a lesser extent even India and Pakistan are not that potent. Only really South Africa and Sri Lanka have great bowlers, and Aussies are nowhere near as good without prime Warne and McGrath.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I certainly agree with your point regarding bowlers.

    A batsman's cause is also aided by the improvements in bat technology and shorter boundaries - a point Mark Taylor has raised on several occasions.

    Average batsmen now average 40.

    Excellent players of yesteryear (say pre-2000) averaged in the 30's and had long careers - Gatting, Atherton, etc..... Mark Waugh is an ATG (IMO) and he only averaged 42. A guy who averaged 50 was considered extra special.

    These days a guy averaging 50 is generally considered merely a very good player, with an average of 55 over a very long career being the benchmark now.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Not sure I agree with this at all. The reason Gatting and Atherton have averages in the thirties is that that is how good they were. Plenty of their contempories have averages that place them in the true world class category that neither genuinely reached. Gatting you are especially overrating as his average is padded by lots of matches against Indian and Australian teams with fairly weak bowling attacks (particularly fast bowling). Gatting averaged 15 against the West Indies, the premier bowling side of his era.

    Ponting and Sangakkara may have the 13th and 14th best test averages of all time, but everyone above them in the list retired before 1975. Hardly conclusive evidence that present day batting is so much easier...
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Give me a covered pitch any day...
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

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    I'd say it definitely is, but everyone is welcome to their opinion.
     
  9. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cloud 4/7 to win against Woods - a good value bet IMO.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Plenty of interesting stuff on Betfair as I write.......

    Hull 24/1 to beat Chelsea :nut
    Fulham 15/8 to win at Portsmouth
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    25/1 now. That's just ridiculous.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

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    If they keep Phil Brown in charge it may as well be 100/1.

    Sack him tonight and I guarantee you the top price will be 10/1 :nut

    Fulham are a steal at 15/8 I'd say.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm doing well on the Tennis - Montreal Masters

    Had 100 on Gilles Simon to beat a Canadian qualifier. No idea why he was as long as 8/11 to beat that guy...but it seemed too good to pass up

    Got 30 on JC Ferrero to beat Monfils as well, which is looing good at 6-3 2-0 at the moment.
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Nikolay Davydenko to beat Fernando Gonzalez IMO

    The winner to beat Andy Murray
     
  15. lefthook82

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    Catermole @ evens to score 2 premier league goals this season with Boylesports. Gonna stick 50 on it

    He attacks more, its a world cup year and he has a very stern player in Cana beside him so expect to see him venture forward. Injury permitting he is gonna be starting almost all games so I think this is good value


    Bent @ 10/11 to score 11 premier league goals. Injury permitting this is a good value bet. Again, World Cup year and he wants to be on the plane. He scored 18 league goals the last WC year but still didn't get on. In 4 premier league seasons he has only scored less than 11 on 1 occasion, his first at Spurs when they still had Berba, Keane and Defoe

    Service wont be excellent at Sunderland but then I dont recall Fabregas playing for Charlton those two seasons he was there and he still scored well