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And QPR getting hammered as well!

 

If I know a Warnock side then this means QPR will go 2 or 3 months being hardly able to buy a win. Usually it happens after Christmas but it might have started a bit early this year.

I'm fancying Khan rounds 8-12 OR pts at 11/10 on skybet for tomorrow. Khan is an accumulative puncher more than anything, and it took 11 rounds to stop Malignaggi and he was offering nothing, they'll be extra wary of Maidana and if they actually do go for the stoppage it'll only be when he literally stops throwing back.

 

Only had 10 for some excitement.

Tomorrow got this accy:
Middlesbrough v Cardiff : Match Betting Cardiff 2.38
Aston Villa v West Brom : Total Goals (U/O 3.5) Under 3.5 1.40
Stoke v Blackpool : Total Goals (U/O 3.5) Under 3.5 1.44
Fulham v Sunderland : Total Goals (U/O 3.5) Under 3.5 1.25
Everton v Wigan : Match Betting Everton 1.44
West Ham v Man City : Match Betting Man City 2.00

Total stake £5.00 Estimated return £86.37

 

Anything over 8-4 and I'd hope he gets the decision. I think he can win in a convincing manner. The thing with Hopkins is that he'll make his opponent look bad, so I think the judges will be less inclined to give the rounds to Pascal if he doesn't look good, as opposed to Hopkins still winning the rounds but Pascal looking good aswell.

Why not? Hard-hitting is debatable, and Hopkins has never shown that he's troubled by power. His punch volume isn't exactly off the charts like Calzaghe's was, he's not particularly adaptable.

The man problem is if Pascal decides to box off the back foot, as he's got the hand and foot speed to let quick, flashy combinations go [even if they aren't necessarily landing, they'll obvious impress the judges] and prevent Hopkins from closing him down, which he doesn't really want to do.

If Hopkins can get his jab going he might be able to shut-down Pascal's pot-shotting/occasional combination gameplan that he used against Dawson. He wins an inside fight all day every day if Pascal steps in and tries to trade with him like he did against Froch.

 

hopkins isnt the same as he was lets not forget that the pavlick fight although a great acheivment was taylor made for hopkins , pascal will not stay anywaer near hopkins , hell be in and out and like you said it dosent matter if the shots are bloked if there the only meaningfull shots in the round it wont matter

 

Pascal isn't a technically skilled fighter. He's essientally a poor man's Roy Jones. Really he's all about speed of hand and foot, overhand rights, left-hooks, his jab is not bad but not great. He's about timed counter punches and flashy combinations [from what I've seen].

Hopkins will find a lot of fundamental flaws in him. Pascal's athleticism is really the thing that's keeping him in this fight and making him a favourite and the fact that Hopkins is 45. His hand-speed is still alright though Hopkins, but timing beats speed and technically he's still the far superior fighter and the far smarter fighter.

I think people have gotten a bit carried away with Pascal aswell. He got out-boxed by Froch, moved up and beat Branco [irrelevant] and Diaconu twice which were decent wins, but Diaconu had flaws aswell and was B- level. The Dawson fight I think is a bit misleading, Dawson didn't look his normal self in that fight. I honestly believe if Dawson comes in at his best he'd beat him in a rematch.

As for Lebedev v Huck, Huck has never really impressed me. Big puncher but a bit crude and basic for me. Lebedev is pretty much solid in all departments, he's got a good enough chin to whether any blows from Huck and he's a sharper and overall better puncher for me.

When has Hopkins ever been troubled by power since his fight with Mercado all those years ago? He's got a great chin and one of the tightest D's in the game. Pascal isn't massively active as you say and isn't a noted-puncher. I don't see any way he stops Hopkins. If there's any fight that is going the distance, it's this one.

 

I don't think it's gonna be all that easy to move in and out on Hopkins though. If there's one think Hopkins has always had and will never lose it's his ring smarts and sense of timing. Like I said; timing beats speed. If Hopkins can establish his jab he can probably shut-down Pascal's game on the outside. He'll time him when he moves inside at times aswell I suspect so he can tie him-up and attempt to take his legs away with inside body shots.

 

Agree with Tommy, Hopkins is technically very sound, one of the best. I just cannot see a KO in this one. The only outcome I can think of is pascal wins on points/UD as at home.

 

I don't think we're ever gonna win a game again mate. Ever.

 

As long as you keep that going til after new year's day when you come down Ashton Gate that's fine with me

 

Thank **** we've got you soon - I didn't know where our next point was coming from. Now I do

 

Date of Game: Saturday*11th December
Game:*Aston Villa v*West Bromwich Albion*- kick-off 3.00pm
Competition:*Premier League
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Selection:*Aston Villa*to win
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Best Prices
2.2*with VictorChandler
2.19 with 5Dimes, Sportbet
2.16 with Pinnacle
2.15 with SBObet, Canbet, BetFred, WilliamHill, BlueSq, 888bet, BetPhoenix
2.14 with Chronicle*
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Reasoning:*This one may be a bet that some disagree with me about but I think an*argument can be made that Villa are in a slightly false position at the moment. Not suggesting they are anything other than an upper mid-table side this season but for them to be 5th bottom probably doesn't tell the whole story.
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The fixture list hasn't been kind to them at all. Home games are obviously where teams pick up the majority of their points and Villa have had a really tough run of home games so far this season, probably more so than any other side in the division. They have already faced Man.Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal at Villa Park, the only side in the league who has faced all 3 at home so far. Thats obviously the 3 home games in the season where realistically*it's tough to pick up 3 points and it has meant that*realistically they have only had 5 opportunities so far to pick up 3 home points and sees Villa artificially lagging behind*sides who have had 7 or 8 chances to claim 3 points for a home win.
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In their other 5 home games they've faced*Everton, Bolton, Birmingham, Blackpool and West Ham and they have picked up 11 points out of 15 in those games.*That is pretty decent I think considering Everton can beat anyone on their day, Bolton are looking like a top half side this year, Birmingham are obviously local rivals so home to Brum is a different game for Villa than any other side and Blackpool look a much better side than anyone expected.
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They've also been a bit unlucky with the timing of their away games. They faced Liverpool last week when they are now*starting to get it together rather than at the start of the season when they were vulnerable. They faced Newcastle in their first home game after promotion which is always a very tough game for the away side. They faced Spurs away after Spurs had just had a tough European game rather than getting them at home like say Bolton did. They've also had to face really tough underated home sides like Sunderland, Fulham and Blackburn which look on paper easier than they actually are.
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I'm not saying that these little things are anything that other clubs haven't had to face either but Villa seem to have consistently been faced with really tough games game after game*and haven't had a break whereby they have caught a side at*a good time.
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To cut a long story short I think Villa have been underated a bit in this one. West Brom are a decent side but Villa*look a big price to me.
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Date of Game: Saturday*11th December
Game:*Udinese v Fiorentina*- kick-off 5.00pm
Competition:*Serie A
***
Selection:*Udinese*to win
*
Best Prices
2.16 with 5Dimes, Sportbet
2.13 with Chronicle
2.12 with 188bet, SBObet, Canbet, 12bet, Mansion88
2.11 with Pinnacle
2.1 with Ladbrokes, BetFred, Skybet, BlueSq, 888bet, WilliamHill, VictorChandler, Jenningsbet*
* ****
Reasoning:*Fiorentina have been on the slide for quite a while and as you've probably noticed I've been keen to oppose them when the right opponent has come along.*This looks another opportunity to go against them.*
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The rot started to set in during the latter part of Cesare Prandelli's reign in the 2nd half of last season and has continued this season under new boss*Sinisa Mihajlovic. In the last 20 games of last season Fiorentina only picked up 17 points. Only relegated Livorno had a worse record. Despite the change of manager there weren't many major changes in the Fiorentina playing squad in the summer and they have not really improved*much*this season with just*19 points claimed from*15 games.*Overall that is 35 games which is pretty much a whole season and claiming just 36 points in those games is obviously relegation standard.
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Away from home*in 2010 they have a P17, W1, D5, L10, F13, A25 record. They've*only kept*1 clean sheet in those 17 games and failed to score in 8 of them.
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Udinese are generally strong at home. Their 2010 home record is P18, W9, D5, L4, F35, A24. They started off this season with 2 home defeats to Juventus and Genoa but seem to have bounced back nicely from that with their 5 Serie A home games since then producing 4 wins and a draw, including wins against 4th place Napoli and 5th place Palermo.
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Udinese are, perhaps surprisingly, the third highest home scorers in 2010 in Serie A with only the two Milan clubs scoring more. It's these sorts of sides that Fiorentina have seemed to struggle against the most on their travels in recent times.
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All in all based on the numbers I'd say Udinese should be a fair bit shorter and it's only Fiorentina's name value thats keeping the home side at an attractive price.
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great.
:thumbsup

 

rite going to be my 1st time betting just need help
just been on the william hill website and i want to bet the following

mathew macklin decision or technacial decision
@11/2 put £2 on .. win £13 back

kell brook by decisioon or technacial decision
@15/2 put £2 on .. win £12 back

paul smith by decision or technacial decision
@15/2 put £2 on .. £17 back

accumulator / multipules

trebble win @ 330.5/1
£2 on .. win £663.00

TOTAL: £8

do they change the odd's in the shop and how do i write it out on the betting paper ?

thanks Jon

 

Why not just do it online and get a free bet in the process?