British Heavies

out of those names you mentioned, price is known to have a bad chin, and isnt that skillful anyway, olubamiwo is interesting, but too early to tell. In fact their all too early in thier careers to really know how far any of them can go.
I dont think any of those names up there are really going to get back into it.
haye has a good chance to beat wlad, probably 40-60 or even 45-55
i dont know how far rogan can go, noone thought he would go this far.
i dont know much about sam sexton, and i dont know anyone else coming through at the minute.
And as talented as some of them are, i dont think any are a potential lewis.

 

olubamiwo is interesting but he looks like he will get tagged hard. he seems to use only his pure wieght to knock guys out. but he has started to learn how to roll and counter...this could be effective if he wants to be a counterpuncher or he might want to be a swarmer and forget about it.

price looks better than i remembered in the olympics seems much more natural better than fury in terms of technique and punching power. bad man left hook to the body and a good right cross. his chin is weak and in the amatuers he was dropped more than brentford fc, went down more times that heather hunter, is an artist due to him being continuesly on the canvas.all joking aside. he was dropped hard and heavy but relativly ligh punchers. he was fighting super heavy's i know but still in the ams being knocked out is a bit harder than in the pro's. with the lighter gloves, the absent of headgear he might be dropped.

fury, loads of hype and so young...he is only a year older than me and he looks like a 30 year old. he has a good attitude to the game. and says stuff that is perfectly acceptable he doesnt say anythign that is out of place on esb...saying price is weak chinned is not massivly absurd comment. and his loudmouthing seems more due to his promotion...he is pretty shy in all honesty. anyways. good combinations uses hieght well but not correctly. looks like he might have a good chin. very sloppy and isnt in good shape. i know i know this isnt a body builders convention but still. if he has a mid drift that means he isnt really pulling his all. he throws his punches really awkwardly and ineffectivly. takes too much time doing nish. also has a poor jab and straigth right only seems to have hooks and uppercuts. big lad tho. will win a domestic title.

chisora....started really well and looked good but seems to have become stagenant. not very adaptable seesm to be only able to brawl his way to a win...but still has decent technique and seems to have a solid beard. thing is warren is keeping him really under wraps. meaning no youtube footage of him, no repeats of his fights and no questions asked. he seems the most realiable to do well. but as i said he is a bit 1-d.

 

out of the old guard.

Danny Williams, Audley Harrison, Matt Skelton, Michael Sprott, Scott Gammer

danny i think isnt finished. he takes these losses all the time. it was only 1 fight ago that he was in for a mega buck deal with francois botha. he blew it i know but he had been streaking really well got some good exposure and gave some hearty performances. writing him off is part of the cult that is danny williams. he will lose to the good and the bad but will always be back for more. i think a 3rd fight with audley could be a possabilty....laughable was how the 2nd fight was called "last chance saloon" while both men have had relative success after.

audley as much as i think he is a workmans tool he did have a good go and i hope it is sinking in that his career is really on the rocks....not like before where you had some hype and a name that peopel will fitgh to get some attention he really needs to dig deep and fight everything infront of him. go to germany and fight on the undercards there. go to japan ect doesnt matter just being active and showing interest in boxing is what will give him some credability. just get your long face shown. anyways. if he can accept he sitn gonna be a world titlist then he must understand that euro or commonwealth even domestic level is where he is at and must fitgh accordingly, he could ask for a rematch with rogan. if rogan took out skelton after chagaev couldnt even get his punches off on him then it is possible. the prob with aud is that he will just wilt agsaisnt anyone he might give a good performance a few times a round but then bang he is covering up doing nish. coudl win a euro title if he wants to.

sprott i think is finished. he doesnt look like he has it anymore, his performances on the undercards looked hilaciously bad. i think he is back into journeymanville.

skelton could continue but he can retire happy i feel. commonwealth, british, euro holder. and a world title challenge agaisnt a credable opponant.

gammer i think wants to retire, he was happily working out of boxing until the reccession.




haye vs sugar vladdy. it might be a 30/70 or 40/60 to wlad. i just think david isnt tested to someone this big. but i wouldnt be surprised by a counter right hook stomps wlad clean.



rogan i think can be a euro champ but will be foudn out and come apart. he might do well i nthe u.s. bit of hopeful thinking of course but the eastcoast loves irish...and i mean the real irish....north or south. there was a guy called james clancey who made a tidy sum on the irish ropes promotion...they ****ed over duddy but this guy seemed to of got scott free.

 

1. I think Tyson Fury's the best prospect but the others could reach a decent level to. Olubamiwo at 30 might be too old to ever reach world level but then again people would have said the same thing about Rogan 6 months ago.

2. All of those fighters are done though I think Danny Williams is the best of them.

3. Haye has a good chance but so does Wlad. A real 50/50 fight.

4. I could see Rogan winning the British or European title, maybe even a shot at a world title but I couldn't see him winning it.

5. There's a fighter called Tom Dallas who I've seen a bit of and he looks decent. He's 23 and his records 4(2)-0-0, He's fighting this Thursday.

 

Tought to say at this point. I would count out Larry and Chisora, I don't rate Chisora and he doesn't seem motivated enough to enough get into shape and he's not great, Larry is in fantastic shape, has power but lacks fundamentals.

I'd say it's better Fury and Price. Fury has that size, 6'9" and an aggressive fighter aswell who throws punches with bad intentions, whether the power is there is still a debate. Chin seems fine at the moment. Price has more power of the two in my opinion, he's also very tall at 6'7" and was a better amateur so we can assume powers generally better boxing skills, i.e. a better jab, better 1-2 etc. However his chin was a worry in the amateurs, and he did a bit of a dance against Ingleby.

Hmm, tough to say. I don't think any of them are going to go above British level anymore. Harrison I think you can officially right him off as we did years ago, Scott Gammer I don't feel will return to top form either or improve at this stage.

Sprott I expect will continue with his sort of tough journeyman status in recent years, fighting prospects looking for a tougher test, or seasoned-pros looking to get some rounds in, for example his recent fights with Taras Bidenko & Lamon Brewster.

Williams has always been a relatively good fighter, it's just that inconsistency which bugs him. Sosnowski I don't feel is actualyl a bad fighter although I think a top form Williams would of beat him, a lot have said he's finished after that, but we will see against McDermott. We've said that before when he's had an off-night and he's come back.

Skelton I feel will be back to an extent, stopped for the first time but he's still a tough fighter to crack, good chin, heart, physically strong, he's got power aswell and he's a bit crude. Doesn't box particularly well but he's not completely unskilled, I feel he'll be back at British level sometime, probably reclaiming the belt.

I think he has a terrific chance. He's got power, very good handspeed, he's technically solid and can box behind good fundamentals, i.e his jab is pretty snappy, he has a very under-rated 1-2, and he can counterpunch with big hayemakers that do damage. Yes, his chin has been questioned, but he's agile and hard to tag cleanly, and obviously very confident.

Well he's a bit like a version of Skelton. He's got power, he's good on the inside, uses his physical strength well and lands a lot with left hooks and short right hands, he's got a good chin and great heart. I'm not sure how far he can go, maybe he can beat some top 20/25 guys, possibly guys like Sosnowski or even Rahman, but I don't see him beating good contenders like Chambers or Povetkin, nor do I see him becoming a world champion. I'd love him to prove me wrong though I really would.

He's not bad, but having a loss to a fellow prospect like Chisora puts him down in the pecking order. I'm not thrilled by this fight in honesty, I think Rogan will win comfortably enough, inside the distance aswell.

Not really at heavy, no.

No!

 

None of 'em are gonna be that good. I'd honestly be shocked if one of these guys won a world title or got close.

Chisora - He's...bland. And not motivated. Perhaps if he was given better opposition his motivation to get into shape would be more...but he seems content picking up his pay cheque and not improving. Which is bad for him, because his current level is British level.

Price - Yeah he could of been something, but he's just going to turn out like Amir Khan. Chin is going to override all his other good attributes. Everybody knows he's got a china chin, everybody in the trade, its not a well kept secret and he proved us right getting hurt in his first fight despite performing well.

Fury - At best he's going to be a work-rate type of guy with handspeed. Not much sign of skill, defence or co-ordination, and his power is very ordinary. As I say, work-rate type of guy is what I see in his future. Could have some limited success if the division remains weak if he could just outwork fat guys, but at the very top level I think you need that power. How many featherfisted world champs have there been?

Rogan - The guy's style and personality is addictive, and we seem to say this every fight before he proves us wrong, but how far can he REALLY go brawling like that with no thought of defence? I think he should stay at European level. The next step would be one too far. I think he needs a bit of protection from his promoter in that respect, to realise his level.

OlaBUMiwo - A prospect for a British title. Great power is all you need to win a British title at the moment, considering shot Williams and McDermott are battling it out. Which is lucky, because he only has power.

The old guard like Skelton, Williams and Gammer are British level. They've seen better days, and their best days were never that good, so we can't expect anything more.


All things considered I think Tyson Fury is actually the best of this lot.

 

I don't think any of them will get to World title level. Perhaps European level for Fury, Price and maybe Rogan. Obviously Haye can hang with the best in the world at the moment.

However, even if none of them do pick up a world title, it should make for an exciting domestic HW scene over the next few years.

 

Yeah am happy the domestic scenes just pickin up, i chose Fury but I'll have to wait and see with Price

 

I think that sums it it up well. Although I'd come back and check Tyson again for power in his mid to late twenties. That guy is going to naturally thicken out a bit more by then - to me he still looks like his physique has not yet matured. He'd be best off slowing down the pace of his career a little to spend more time working on skill while waiting for his body to solidify.

 

fury out of them lot but they all need serious improvement

 

Danny Williams is a **** and I can not wait til he retires.

Not sure if any of our prospects can go above Euro level but with good match making us Brits may see some good fights over the next few years.

Keep an eye out for Dallas too.

 

think fury is very hitable and would tire.like to see more of price has beaten fury ,although fury was young ,big larry needs realaxing but has power, dallas still unbeaten but with only 3kos out of 5,think these 4 should be in next prizefighter would be a good night