British P4P Top 15...

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by rooq, May 13, 2008.


  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl
     
  2. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Look forward to it.

    Mine was based on performances over past 18 months as requested in the thread.

    Hence Lynes relatively high ranking - 5 consecutive wins, won back to back Titles (British & Euro) and successfully defended both, etc.
     
  3. TFFP

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    Because he beats him by any criteria. Recent resume, Mormeck in his backyard for the WBA, WBC and ring belts then unifies vs. Maccarinelli to be all but undisputed cruiserweight champ against outclassed by Mayweather and an impressive win over horribly shot Castillo

    Skillwise it's no contest either
     
  4. J-Dog

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    Skills is the issue, its not resume4resume or form4form, its pound4pound, does Haye beat Hatton p4p.... ?
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not for me, no.

    I am a fan of both - but feel that Haye is progressing nicely at the moment and in time, will be Hatton's equal.

    But not at the moment - Hatton has never looked like losing in his weight class (but was beaten by PBF) whilst Haye (other than his defeat by Thompson) has been chinned a few times whilst, admittedly, not being in the greatest difficulty.

    Hatton for me.
     
  6. J-Dog

    J-Dog Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed, i think Haye needs space and time and Hatton wouldnt give him none of those luxuries

    Scale Haye down.. Hatton all day, scale Hatton up then maybe different, he maybe couldnt eat the punches he takes at heavier weights....

    p4p Hatton
     
  7. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    good list but khan too high for me maybe about 10th IMO but still decent list
     
  8. TFFP

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    It starts getting hazey when you talk about how someone 'hasn't looked like losing in their weightclass'. p4p lists should not be about overall resume, otherwise where do you draw the line? Hopkins would still be a top p4p fighter using that sort of logic...

    It should be either recent results (and manner of victory - which is often overlooked) or skillset. Ideally a combination of both, they are usually the best lists...

    Hatton's recent results are a bad loss, a somewhat impressive win against Castillo, but not greater than Haye's when put into context, and a few pretty mediocre performances against C levels
     
  9. brown bomber

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    I ignored the 18 month rule- sorry. :-(
     
  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    C level is harsh on Urango you not think?
     
  11. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I'm no expert and I cancelled Sky Sports a while back, but here's my list.

    1. Calzaghe



    2. Haye
    3. Hatton
    4. Witter
    5. Arthur
    6. Froch
    7. Macca
    8. Woods
    9. Khan
    10. Rees
    11. Mitchell
    12. Skelton
    13. Moore
    14. Jennings


    15. Lynes
     
  12. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, but please stop making me read 'Skelton' in a P4P list. Just finish at 10 mate :bart
     
  13. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    :lol: Like I said I'm no expert.
     
  14. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is an argument for him to be in there, and I think a couple have already said it too. I just despair for British boxing that he can be even nearly the top!!!

    It is a bit of a golden age at the moment for us with Hatton/Haye/Calz (in no particular order before people start kickin off!) but outside of that I'm not sure about the depth. I think Khan will be world class, at the risk of upsetting Americans, but after that I dont think the names on the list will do all that much.

    I need to sit down with some spare time and do some due dilligence on my British list I think. For example, someone like Lynes - I'm not familiar with his record and yet he's touted as one of our best talents?

    Dont want to put a dampner on things because I suppose any nation, at any one time, will only have 2/3 world class boxers and yet we have two or three ELITE boxers and we are a tiny nation. But after those three (and excluding Khan's potential) I dont think we have all that much to offer.
     
  15. TFFP

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    Well what do you suggest? Maybe C+ if I'm being kind

    He virtually got shut out and outboxed by Ricky Hatton. No B class boxer loses every round to Ricky Hatton. It's like getting knocked out by Ian Napa.