British Prospects & How far will they go?

This is based on what I have seen on them inside the ring and what i have heard from trainers, experts, people on here that know them and what I have seen of them myself.


Heavyweight

Chisora - Will win for British/Comm titles but will fail beyond that. Lacks the dedication and heart needed to go beyond that.

Fury - Will get to Euro level eventually but will always get found out beyond that. Again he will lack the dedication needed to get to the top. He is a pikey after all.

Price - Will get to Euro level and eventually a world title shot with the right promoter but do not think his chin holds up at world level.

Sexton - Won't do much more than he already has.

Light Heavyweight

Bellew - I reckon this guy will become a world champion but it may end up being at Cruiser. He has world class power already and is big and skillful enought o cause allot of trouble.

Cleverly - Rate him really high. He has the attitude to go to the top, I think he will be britains number 1 fighter for some time and in the top 10 P4P in the world

Super Middle Weight

DeGale - He already has a good defence which is the problem with most british fighters at world level. He is seriously fast. I think he will win a world title but lacks the power to be a dominant force.

Groves - A future world champion and if he keeps grounded and work hard he could be up there with the worlds best. Tough and Powerful he could win belts up to Cruiser.

Jeffries - His large fan base will mean he gets plenty of opportunities. I could see him being Euro champ and challenging for a world title.

BJ Saunders - He wont get to British Level if he carrys on at Super Middle. He lacks the dedication needed to forfill his potential. If he sorts this out (which i doubt, again a pikey) and gets down to at least light middle, he can be a world champion.

Welterweight

Brook - I think he will become a world champion. Allot of the top welterweights have 1-2 years left in them so it will leave gaps for Kell to fill. Could end up winning titles at Light middle as well.

Cox - British level, maybe further if he has a good promoter

O'Donnell - I see him winning the European at some point but not going much further

Light Welterweight

Frankie Gavin - Lacks the dedicatoion needed to go forfill his potential. Will not go beyind British level. Lack of power is a problem.

Lightweight

Murray - Will pick up the Euro title but will not go beyond that

Bell - British and Commonwealth.

Super Featherweight

Burns - Has found his level as a good domestic fighter.
K.Mitchell - Will win a world title and defend it severall times. May unify but will come unstuck if the likes of Gamboa and Lopez end up at super feather.
V.Mitchell - He will eventually pick up a domestic title

Featherweight

Appleby - Will eventually win the Euro title but not in his next fight. I think he could be a world champion but is being over matched to soon and it will have a negative effect.

Arthur - Domestic title

Bhatia - Perhaps a Euro title if he puts the effort win.

Lindsay - Will pick up the European at some point and should challenge for a world title

Smith - Along with Cleverly, Groves and Bellew he is the top guy. Will win a world title but go down as one of the best smaller british fighters ever.

Super Bantam

Marsh - May pick up the European one day
Joe Murray - Reckon he can win a world title one day. Deffiantley Euro

Super Fly

Broadhurst - Is with Warren so will skip Euro title and get a world title shot. Cannot see him winning as he doesnt have enough speed to cope at world level and lacks the dedication needed to go to the top.

Flyweight

Ashley Sexton - I think he will pick up the European in a few years as its not a strong division in Europe. At both Fly and Super Fly.

 

hahaha, you got a chuckle outa me there jeff.


i see a few WBO champs in that list but it terms of becoming a PROPER world champ who fights top contenders all over the world and is respected in their division il go for groves, gavin, lindsay, carl frampton



the big intangibles make this exercise a bit pointless at this stage. heart, determination, extreme physical fitness can elevate people who look nothing special to world class and in the case of degale, saunders, fury, chisora etc the opposite will occur

 

You have **** all knowledge regarding the dedication of any of these fighters.

 

I agree.

There are a fair few that could get to WBO level and have a decent run.

However - I'd rather they go for the proper titles, WBC & IBF, rather than simply cherrypicking.

It isn't as if the IBF serve up quality mandatories either, most of them are crap!

 

Lmao He is a Pikey after all!!!

I hope He dont catch up with you.....

For every action, there is a reaction. And a Pikey reaction... is quite a ****ing thing.

 

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the history of boxing will tell you there 1000s of promising gypsey amateurs that never make it as a pro because as soon as they get a bit of cash they just hit the pubs.

Chisora has tits and had to bite his last opponent to keep himself out of trouble.

Fury - Gypo

Saunders - The guy is coming in 15lbs overweight already and he is 18 years old.

Gavin - Plenty of brummys on here will tell you he is always on the ****. Ive seen his facebook and he is always being tagged in photos on nights out with pints in his hand. Also he failed to make weight for the olympics and many have said its due to his bad lifestyle which will only get worse now that he has money in his pocket.

Broadhurst - He always looks like he is carrying weight. Also seen his facebook and he is always out in the ****.

btw i think saunders couldnt certainly be a world champion at welterweight or light middle.

 

Ill give you Chisora....he is just a fat lad.

Sterotyping all 'gypos' as not having dedication is pathetic and you have no clue what your talking about, I'm unaware of these 1000's of gypo amateurs who could have mase it, you should be able to name loads if there are 1000s....you do not know Fury or BJS personally and you have no idea of their dedication to the sport. Saunders is not a WW.....He is 20 years old and still growing....you are not a fully developed man by the time you hit 20 and I think he will be fine at middleweight.

So Gavin and Broadhurst go out on the **** and you say they will never have the dedication to make it? Try looking at the guy in your avatar.....He was probably living it up in London twice as much as Frankie and Broadhurst do currently and I think he did alright for himself....

Again, you know **** all about the dedication of these fighters, your just making assumptions on bloody facebook pages

 

name the last gypsy to be a world champion???

name the last gypsy that hasn't been in a boxing ring???

 

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What kind of cop out is that........

You were the one who referred to all these promising Gypsy amateurs that didnt make it.

And yes alot of Gypsys fight eachother in nothing more then a bloody 'street-brawl' that happens to take place in a ring.

Is that what you consider a promising amateur record? :rofl Beating up other Gypsys.........Your full of ****.

Yeah the real reason Gypsy fighting champs havent become world champs is all to do with dedication....nothing to do with boxing skill atsch

 

Floyd Mayweather will tell you he wins his fights in the gym. Dedication............hard work............dedication............hard work. did you not learn anyhting from 24/7. go to any trainer in the country and they will tell you they have had a number of promising gypsy kids come through there doors that have all fallon by the way side. i seem to remember buncey saying something simular when BJS turned pro.

Saunders being 18 is no exsuse for weighing 160+ and he is carrying. Look at Stephen Smith and George Groves who are simular ages. I am going to start betting on Saunders loosing by KO.

the difference between Haye and Gavin/Broadhurst is that Haye has always come across as a very clever guy, i do not get the same impression from gavin and broadhurst.

you can make an assumption on someones facebook page if every other day they update there status saying "hungover" or "whos up for pub tonight" and there always photos of them with beer in there hand. Groves and Smiths has photos pf them sparring.

all the fighters i have mentioned as lacking dedication have 2 things in common, they have all had there dedication questioned in the past, and none of them are going to win 6 pack of the year anytime soon.

 

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Why you spouting **** about what Floyd Mayweather would tell me? When did I ever say you dont require hard work and dedication? This is about you proclaiming to know about all these fighters dedication when you know ****. Yeah go to any trainer in the country and they will tell you they have had a number of promising white/black/asian/welsh/scottish etc. kids come through there doors that have all fallen by the way side. Their kids, it happens! Not just because they are gypsys.

Saunders is 20, not 18 and is still growing....he is fine for a MW as he continues to grows...nearly every prospect fights a couple pounds above their weight class at the start of their career...Tony Bellew fought at 185 a few fights ago :scaredas: No dedication huh?

I dont stalk boxers on facebook and check their status updates all the time so i dont know about their habits but I pretty guarantee your over exaggerating saying every other day they post **** like 'im hungover'....

These are all just crap assumptions by you, you know sweet **** all about any of the fighters in question.