British Prospects & How far will they go?

Derek Chisora? - Domestic maybe fringe european class.

Tyson Fury? - on the evidence of the mcdermott fight, strictly domestic, but hopefully he'll learn and i think the mcdermotts style was all wrong for him. hard to say, but his lack of real power will probably keep him fringe european class unless it develops.

Tony Bellew? - not really seen enough

Goerge Groves? - looked great so far, but far too early to tell

James Degale? - not looked as good as groves, but still too early to tell.

Tony Jeffries? - as above

Billy Joe Saunders? - as above

Kell Brook? - needs a tough fight to see what he's like under pressure and how hie chin holds up. he has the skills and power to compete at world level, but needs tougher fights.

John O'Donnell? - lacks power and i think he'll come apart against guys that can walk through his combos and back him up. as watson did for alot of their fight. probably good enough for european level contention at some point though.

Jamie Cox? - guy needs to channel all that aggression or its going to cost him as it almost did against lloyd. he nearly lost that fight when he should and could be winning every round and stopping the guy. have alot of faith in him, think he's european level at least

Frankie Gavin? - as i said about the other olympians, but the skillset and ring craft he showed in the amateurs means he's almost certain to go beyond domestic level, but the chin and power factor as always need to be proven before we can say if he can reach the top like he did in the ams. good chin and half decent power and he can challenge for world honours eventually

 

Derek Chisora? At his level now. He may win a British Title but that's all i see him winning. He may get to fight for European Title but he would have to fight a stiff to win it imo.

Tyson Fury? Atm i feel he has the abilty to go far but really he needs to improve and take more time in gym and get a better trainer. At this time i will say maybe European Level. He's a really hard one to predict because we don't know the future in terms of his trainer and match making.

Tony Bellew? I have to see more. I liked what i saw in the Sparring. He sounds a banger and a lad with a good head.

George Groves? I say European Level...he may pick up a Alphabet strap depending on the strength of the division. Atm he has a long way to go but does have ability.

James Degale? I see him lifting a world title. I'm a firm beliver in skills pay bills and James does have this. He showing all the right signs training wise. I like to see him with a trainer that suits his style but i think so far he's improved from his first fight and i think his defence and counter punching will be highly effective in higher league.

Tony Jeffries? A British title is something he can grab. I think European level is his limit. I don't think he has the ability to step beyond that. I haven't been impressed with him since his first fight.

Billy Joe Saunders? I don't like his style i worry he's very young and i feel he's stays to close to fighters and will ship punishment and end up in wars. His weight is a issue as well i agree with Rob on that. He does have ability but i got a feeling he could get in a scrap against a decent campaigner around his 16-17th fight and get stopped in a war.

Kell Brook? I like Kell. He's a big punching and straight talking. This Jennings fight will tell us bundles about him. Atm his recent list of opponents hasn't impressed me but he has to beat what's in front of him. I think he can go onto win a World Title but i don't see him going p4p as he will struggle with the more tactically complete and fundamentally strong fighters.

John O'Donnell? He has all the attributes in the world to be a class act and be very exciting but attributes and talent have to be used wisely and he doesn't do what i like him to do. He looks awkward and causes himself more trouble by thinking he's awkward. I like to see him use the jab more and move his head as well. He wont go much beyond European. Again he has talent but the way he is fighting he have to fight a stiff or shot fighter to win a European title.

Jamie Cox? I like the look of him but has shown a nasty streak that could be detrimental towards him in bigger fights. He has a bit about him and with the right development and match making he could be a talent but he needs to be fighting better standard then he is now. I think the worry is he struggled in a fight recently most top prospects would win with ease.

Frankie Gavin? I think his last display he improved. He does a few things that leave me rather uneasy about him technically. He needs to losen up and use the feints as he did. I think he will win a European Title and maybe win a WBO title or WBA if well matched.

 

I am with Rob on the gypo front.

 

Michael McGuire was one of the top amateurs people predicted big things for him.

Now he has quit boxing and apparently got into a street fight at the weekend.

Top quality amateur gypsy thats gone of the rails with money in his pocket.

 

Guys I don't take offence to what's being said especially about the weight issue pal.Everyone is entitled to there opinion all im trying to do is Just give you all an insight into the going's on in pro boxing,

I wanted to let you know also that it's all a front with Frankie, The funtime stuff!! He is a lunatic and the funniest kid your likely to ever meet BUT he is also very dedicated and works very hard which I think he's proved by moving away from Birmingham to live in Manchester!!

People can say anything they want about facebook pictures and other stuff but at the end of the day the facts speak for themselves, he's the ONLY ever world am champion from these shores and is also 3-0 as a pro and has advanced in everyone of his fights!! He looks super fit everytime he boxes and fights at a very high pace too, Hardly the signs of a **** artist if you ask me..:good:good

 

Gavin, DeGale and Suanders are all moving to 6 rounders for there next fights. good to see.

The facts are these. If Gavin works as hard as he should, he can go to the very top. If he doesn't then thats his issue. Lets hope that I am wrong.

Tony I don't think anyone was slagging you off about weight they were jsut saying that its common for prospects to come in above there weight category until they get to title fights.

Whats your opinion on the other fighters they have been mentioned. Obviously you look at Clev as a big fight but do you see Groves and Jeffries being big fights at light heavy in teh future, whats your thoughts on them?

 

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Mate I didn't think you were slagging me off over the weight, I was just explaning that I was 175 the day before..

As for Groves and Jeffries I rate them both, Groves has definitly improved since going pro! Jeffries and me were friends from are England days so I know what he is capable of and rate him. If the matches were made in the future I'd take them BUT for now there 12st fighters an Im strictly a 12st 7pd fighter to be honest..:good

 

I stated this about this kid before he turned over!! Super talent but can't live the life!! I've seen it with me own eyes that's why I say it..:-(

 

nice one.