British prospects stepping up too early?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by nick_1204, Feb 27, 2013.


  1. nick_1204

    nick_1204 Lil Floyd Full Member

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    Having seen a lot of our fighters go from domestic to world level i think a lot of the time they go up without properly preparing for world level.

    It seems that as soon as they win the british title they are saying they want a world title.

    Theres a vast difference in british domestic level to world level.

    I really wish our fighters would have more fights at fringe world level before stepping up to the plate.

    Frampton is talking about a title fight in his next couple of fights. He only had 16 fights. I just dont feel hes prepared to make a proper assault on the world scene. Theres other examples too but it just seems to be a trend.

    I think you need 4 or 5 fights against world contenders, journeymen and fringe world level fighters, preferably travelling abroad too. At least youll be more prepared to really hit that level running instead of being a huge underdog.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. HeavyT

    HeavyT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not so much that its too early, more that they are skipping a level and wasting too much time at domestic level.
     
  3. diggler

    diggler Active Member Full Member

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    In general they stay fighting lower level opposition to long then when they make a make a step up its to big, each fight should be a bigger test than the last fight instead of making 1 giant leap
     
  4. jonny v

    jonny v Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would be nice to spend more time at euro level aswell.we seem to want to breed unbeaten kids that have 20 or so bottom level contests,a couple of low risk'testers' that are billed as risky.then onto the world stage,-not a great way to go about things imo.
     
  5. PaulieMc

    PaulieMc Guest

    I'd say maybe Dereck Chisora. He's a good fighter and has given some great fighters some tough fights. When he stepped up to fight Vitali he'd only fought at British level and fought one over-hyped guy in Helenius whose only was Euro level. If Dereck would have had more experience he possibly could have beat Vitali or maybe even Haye. Hope he rebuilds and comes back.
     
  6. nick_1204

    nick_1204 Lil Floyd Full Member

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    Its kind of what i meant about skipping a level. Not bridging the gap.

    I like to see them have 2 or 3 euro fights but i think they need americans and south americans just because there a huge contrast of styles.

    It important to get experience for the future of your career but im not sure they get it right sometimes.
     
  7. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, I've gone on about this in the past. Bridging fights between British and world level are crucial but not enough fighters have them. And this lack of experience really hinders British fighters if they do end up reaching world level.

    For all the stick I give them, Matchroom seem to be the only ones doing this. Look at Frampton's progression - tough Mexican guy who gave him rounds, faded ex-champ in Molitor and then Kiko for the European. Brook followed a similar path. If Kell had stayed with Frank he'd have gone from the likes of Philip Kotey to a world title.

    Talent alone isn't enough usually. Those fighters that are good enough to challenge at world level need these tests. There are some exceptions like Ricky Burns who went from domestic level to taking on Rocky Martinez.
     
  8. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but Burns made up for that by dropping down a few levels to compensate.
     
  9. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    people were critical of eliminator after eliminator but the way Brook has been brought through has been perfect.
     
  10. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree with the others who said the problem isn't that they step up too early but the gap in quality is too big when they do step up. Also, if they step up and take a loss it doesn't necessarily mean the journey was badly managed. Sometimes they're just not good enough. Sometimes fans go on like a fighter has a divine right to reach the top and start making excuses when the fighter loses.
     
  11. Quinton_Mob

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    I think boxers turn professional to late here. We don't often fight for world honours til late 20s early 30s. I think that's the reason we don't have many multi weight champions because there body has grown to its biggest size by then.

    I'd prefer tough fights early on to establish what level everyone is really at
     
  12. Decy

    Decy Barely Coherent Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  13. boxzone

    boxzone Active Member Full Member

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    I think the fight on hand for most is to gradually step up in competition rather than take the leap of faith
     
  14. happydrinks

    happydrinks directfraction.storenvy.com Full Member

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    British prospects have it too easy. Trigger happy refs chewing off their own fists to jump in as soon as a clean shot lands means when they finally step up to decent referee level and an opponent doesn't just roll over or get britishly stopped they have no plan B and don't know what to do. You see this in Khan a lot when his 100mph flurries don't work and also in Brook in the Jones fight.

    So no, I don't think they're stepping up too early; I think they're having it too easy at the level they're at.
     
  15. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wait until he meets Alexander.:yep