British prospects stepping up too early?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by nick_1204, Feb 27, 2013.


  1. phonk

    phonk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frampton is a case in point. I think Martinez of 14 moths ago would have beaten Frampton of 14 months ago had they fought when originally scheduled.
     
  2. JonnyBGoode

    JonnyBGoode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of the time even our best domestic fighters won't want to fight each other let alone international opponents. It would benefit some of our fighters to go and train and spar abroad in the states for longer periods and get some tough sparring like Eubank did when he was turning pro. We have too many protected fighters that are carefully matched and then when they go up in class seem over matched.
     
  3. billy nelson

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    To be fair Kells one fight away from a world title shot he was that 2 years ago with the WBO,he could have been a champ now fighting better opponents but choice a different route
     
  4. Ray Dollars

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    I think many top british prospects spend too long fighting journeymen to pad their record and work their way up to 10 and 12 rounders. Losing your zero is not the end of the world if you gain experience and become a better fighter.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    Price should not have fought Thompson, Thompson is a good fight, difficult to fight. Yes, Vlad knocked Thompson out two times, but Vlad is much more experienced than Price, and a totally superior defense. Price still has a career ahead of him, but he has to take time to work on defense, he could us a trainer like Steward. Of course, nobody can take the place of Steward, but..................
     
  6. Tomm

    Tomm Active Member Full Member

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    Hearn does very well in building his fighters through the stages - Brook, Bellew (I know he was with Frank for a long time!) Frampton (so far) have been done properly.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every fighter is different and there is no 'proven' formula for turning a prospect into a world class fighter. If there was, all promoters would use it!

    The few things I would say is that I would like to see prospects fight more often, and for TV, Promoters and boxing people in general to educate the fan that a defeat is not always the end of the boxing world for a prospect.

    Nearly all world class fighters will lose a fight in their career. Plenty have lost fights on the way up. It did not do the likes of McGuigan or Watson any harm to lose to opposition who at the time were domestic journeymen.
     
  8. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are missing out Euro opposition and going for a European title.

    The route for me is Natural, British, Commonwealth, European, World...Follow that route you will get to world level or you wil lfind you're level and no what to improve on.
     
  9. theproblempaul

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    I think kell beats Alexander his accuracy and provision will pay dividends ,don't get me wrong Alexander is fast with great technical skills but I think kell wins on the night.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn, Michael Watson and Chris Eubank sucked then...

    And do not get me started on where Steve Robinson went wrong!
     
  11. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you've missed the point, read what you wanted to like most do!

    I never mentioned that anyone sucked, I said the route to take should be as I stated, going that route you will find out 'easier' where you are, and therefore not making it even more difficult for yourself.

    Just my opinion, you crack on with you're most insightful responses!
     
  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My point is your formula is too simple, and thus as shown, flawed. Sometimes there is no need to take such a long winded route, other times it is very much needed. It depends on the fighter, there is no 'natural' solution.
     
  13. mishima

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    His last fight was against some south american road sweeper with no chin
     
  14. ashedward

    ashedward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    However he is more ready for a World title shot now then he would of been then,he has had proper learning fights since then and has also been able to build up a fanbase in his home town.If he had gone in someone World class after only fighting at British level which is what he really was doing two years ago despite that ranking it could of gone very wrong for him similar to what happen to Mitchell against Katsidas,he now has the chance to step up and hopefuly it`s at the right time
     
  15. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree, It is natural you start at Domestic and end at World.

    Inbetween is where there may be argument, which is skip Europen level fighters or not...no brainer for me!

    Of course you get offered a big money fight, you take it doesnt mean you are ready or its the correct thing to do, its only correct monetary.

    Im saying following that route will tell you alot more about your ability sooner rather than later.