Does anyone think British refs are gain a reputation for stopping bouts prematurely? Tonight in the Kell Brook fight was a prime example. Not to take anything away from a fantastic performance, but I feel early stoppages like this take something away from fighters, who are robbed of a genuine ko/tko's.
Try to stick all complaints about our ref's in this thread mate. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=311473 My beef with Foster tonight was fact he never told the fighter to fight back or he'd stop it he just.........stopped it :-(
100%. ANY fighter that is going to be stopped should be told he needs to step his game up or risk being stopped. He should then be told again if he is in a dangerous exchange where the ref is literally about to step. This leaves no rooms for excuse. If the fighter doesn't respond then his night is finished. British refs are sometimes great in that they let guys fight on the inside but sometimes awful in judging and stopping fights.
Completely agree with this. We have for years felt that fighters going over to Germany to fight 'home' fighters are going to struggle to get a decision, and can all cite various robberies over the years to back up our point. But I think the UK now deserves a reputation for fights being stopped early and with little or no warning, if I were a foreign fighter looking to fight here I would be really worried about it. I think that Brook was going to stop him anyway, so OP is right to say that it also takes something away from Brook, it just suits noone. I remember years ago thinking Byron Mitchell was stopped prematurely against Joe Calzaghe, but thought at the time that it was quite uncommon here. But the last few years many of our refs have been terrible for it. I was loving the fight until that moment, and Foster just ruined it for everyone. Terrible.
It's not the ref's job to offer that kind of advice. I know they sometimes give a fighter a bit of a warning, but to be honest it's the corner's job to encourage a fighter to fight back. That's assuming the fighter doesn't know himself...
Of course its the refs job, he's controlling the fight Even if he told the corner their man needed to fight back, itd be ok.
It's the ref's job to ensure the fighters play by the rules, and to keep them as safe as possible. To advise a fighter on how to avoid getting stopped is not within their remit. I can see both sides of the argument though, and I would prefer the ref to give a fighter fair warning, or even the corner. Whilst on the subject, would we think it appropriate if a ref encouraged a fighter to get up after being knocked down? What if he advised a fighter to step it up if he was behind on points?
I could see both sides also if the refs were stopping fights properly. Its not his job i suppose but he needs to be fair Say it was Kell who was taking a lot of shots on the gloves marching fwd, im in no doubt the ref wouldve warned him to fire back. We're a laughing stock.
'Laughing stock' seems harsh - but I agree it's true. Personally, I think a referee should only in extreme cases (which Saturday was not) take a point off or stop a fight without a warning, first.
A large part of a referee's job comes down to discrection. Unless we want refs to follow strict rules regarding absolutely everything that happens during a fight, then we have to accept some inconsistencies. If refs were not allowed to use their judgement then we would be the first to complain that they were "jobsworths". However, some of our refereeing can be dodgy to be honest, but is it any worse than somebody like Joe Cortez?