British Top 10

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by LD Boxer-Puncher, Nov 11, 2017.


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  1. Scyson

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    Come May he will be in everyone’s top 3.
     
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  2. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    Certainly can and absolutely am, who is he better than on that most recent list I posted?
     
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    I cannot believe everyone has AJ as P4P number 1 in British ratings. He has not beaten either of the other two belt holders in his division and BJS has far better wins on his resume.

    He is also a HW, which means he needs to be absolutely exceptional to be a P4P Number 1. If you boiled him down to a MW body trust me, he wouldnt even be top 5 in the UK ratings.
     
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  4. james5000

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    Gtfoh Tommy Langford is a top 5 British middleweight and a fly weight sized AJ would iron him out ffs, that is a horrendously dumb thought.

    Surely any fighter has to be exceptional to be the best p4p regardless of weight?

    I think p4p is utter garbage but it's not just a skills based test, resume is taken in to account and so are physical attributes.

    A heavyweight like AJ would be a match for anyone in any division just on pure attributes of p4p speed and power.
     
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  5. Plaza

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    I'd put callum above Burnett in your list, but I also think you have BJS too low. Boxing is all about opinions and I'm sure everyone will change there tune if and when BJS beats Canelo and smith wins a title
     
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  6. Scyson

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    If (and I don’t think he will) BJS beat Canelo he would be number 1 in Britain. Callum Smith was the odds on favourite for the WBSS. He’s likely to win it. Don’t let a eubank performance derail that. And Joshua is Joshua.
     
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  7. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    Each to their own. I'd love to see BJS beat Canelo/Golovkin, just can't see it though unfortunately, people seem a bit carried away by what was one excellent performance by him the other night.
    Smith just still has to beat someone yet for me to rank him in the top 10. He hasn't achieved anywhere near what Burnett or even most of the others on my list have as yet
     
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  8. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying Callum won't be in, and the way I rank p4p, it isn't taking into account potential anywhere near to the extent it is resume. Therefore IF (big if) he does win the super series, then of course he'll be up in the top 5 at least. Just because he has to do it to get there doesn't mean I was writing him off by not ranking him at this stage, before he has achieved it. If that makes sense...

    As for the suggestion of the other Smith brothers, I'm assuming that could only have been referring to Liam, as the others obviously would be nowhere close. Liam just lost to Williams in my opinion and is overrated
     
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  9. Twentyman

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    Smith lost to Williams’s...do you mean the first fight mate?
     
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    I think he genuinely means the second. Some idiots on here actually believed Williams was ahead.
     
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    Nobody has achieved what Burnett has other than AJ on your list. So Burnett should be number 1 or 2?
     
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  12. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    No I was referring to the second, but having checked again, I actually had it 114-114 a draw. Either way, he had a close fight/draw in my opinion with Williams, and is overrated as I say. Same point still stands.

    You say some idiots when in fact it's the majority of the forum who seemed to have Williams winning, maybe you're one of the idiots? You always seem to defend the Smith's extremely vigorously, you must know them, or be a Scouser or something.

    How can you say he has achieved more than Carl Frampton?
     
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  13. Twentyman

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    Williams’s got beat by at least 2 rounds in that 2nd fight. I think a lot of people were hoping that Williams’s would avenge his defeat, and were looking too much at his work and not acknowledging Smith’s superb, dominating jab. Williams’s was very poor in that rematch.
     
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  14. Scyson

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    Extremely vigorously hahahahaha. Just called it how it was. I don’t rate smith at all apart from the fact he’s got a huge heart. Callum is the only one of the brothers I rate.

    Are you from Northern Ireland as you support Frampton?

    (Speaking of which I left him out by accident)
     
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  15. LD Boxer-Puncher

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    I wasn't bothered who won, can't say I care much for either of them. Just scored it as I saw it.
    Neither did a whole lot to win most of the rounds and it was very easy to score them either way, personally just thought more of the quality shots were from Williams and he was nicking some rounds with those. I had him leading most of the fight and Smith come back into it at the end as I recall and did enough for a draw.
    Definitely one where a close decision in either fighters favour was no outrage

    I am from Northern Ireland, and that's probably the main reason why I support him yea, it's not why I rate him though, I hate bias. He's been inactive and was unimpressive last time out so I understand why most probably wouldn't have him top 2.
    The main reason why I do is just because Burnett deserves to be top 3/4 and I can't bring myself to put him above Frampton, that just doesn't seem right to me
     
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