I was watching a documentary the other day on Bobby Charlton - made after he recently passed - and I was dwelling on the fact that there was 2 world class brothers in Bobby and Jack and the family lineage which would produce that from the same household. In boxing we had the same. An innate pedigree - or maybe just world class training - produced the Canizales brothers, the Currys, the Finnegans, the Sandovals, et al. But what about those siblings who didn't make it? Man, that had to have been rough seeing your bro take off while you were treading water looking at a career as a journeyman or a clubfighter. Offhand, I was thinking of... Muhammad and Rahman Ali Henry and Jim Cooper Manny and Bobby Pacquiao Ben and Ernie Villaflor How many more can you guys think of?
Meldrick and Myron Taylor. In truth Myron wasn’t THAT bad but Meldrick was quite a bit more successful
True. He did fight for a world title which should probably exclude him from a list of journeyman brothers, but Myron certainly lacked the resiliency one would need to make it to the top.
Good ones. I also just thought of Jerry and Mike Quarry's brother Bobby and Gene and Don Fullmer's brother Jay.
Hagler's brother robbie Simms had a good career with wins against Duran an Barkley an maybe there were even thoughts of him at one point taking over from Hagler when he retired but couldn't step up when his chance came an lost both times he fought for the title an then kinda faded away
Jack, this is a bit of a stretch. It's hard to place someone in this category who fought for the world title twice. And besides beating Duran and a young Barkley, as you mentioned, Sims also beat Tony Chiaverini, Doug DeWitt, John Collins and drew with Murray Sutherland. So Sims was world class. I was thinking something more in the lines of the Zivic brothers. Eddie, Pete and Jack simply had journeyman careers in comparison to Fritzie, although Pete and Jack were fine amateurs. But you're on the right track, Jack, so hit me again.
Yeah well I did say he had a good career but still compared to what Hagler who you could make a case for as being the greatest middleweight ever, Sims career pales in comparison. Maybe no clubfighter but the fact that this is the first time that anyone here has mentioned his name for maybe years shows that there is a huge gap in talent an accomplishments between the brothers.
A few world champs, who had brothers with less illustrious careers: Billy Conn and Jackie Jake LaMotta and Joey (who actually had a pretty decent career himself) Champs Abe and Monte Attell and their less successful brother Caesar Terry McGovern and Hugh, Phil Pete Latzo and Steve, Joe Tommy Loughran and Charley Jimmy McLarnin and Sammy Kid Lavigne and Billy Ad Wolgast and Johnny, Al Jack O'Brien and Young Jack O'Brien Mike Weaver and his triplet brothers Troy, Lloyd and Floyd
This is exactly what I was talking about. The brother that just couldn't make it up that next rung into contendership. I also thought of... Carmen and Joey Basilio Sugar Ray and Roger Leonard Randy and Dick's brother Jackie Turpin Larry and Mark Holmes
There were all time lists that rated Jack Zivic- was he the lightweight?- pretty highly into the 1960s.
I don't know. Boxrec has his record as 40-28-4. I scoured his record and his greatest wins in 72 fights was a win over Lew Tendler and Tommy Milligan. And they were good wins, but then he lost to both in rematches and that seemed to be about it for him. He fought a number more of world class fighters but lost. Perhaps he was being touted as a hot prospect at one time. I could see that, but nothing beyond gate-keeping.
Corrie “The Sniper” Sanders and his twin brother Corey “T-Rex” Sanders. People had trouble telling these heavyweight clones apart.