Brock Lesnar and "Progress"

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    The moral perch in regards to hormones is quite pathetic. If fans knew what was really going on in this sport they wouldnt pay any attention to any of that. The only thing that pisses me off is how Barnett who is a vet could have been so stupid as to get caught and scupper a massive bout with huge significance.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Sylvia was on steroids. So was Bonnar. Neither man looks like a Spartan. Muscle definition is NOT a definitive indication of steroid abuse. Brock was postively on hormones in his previous career. Wether he is on them now i cannot say. But he WAS on them at some stage and he knows it. Theres no point in forgetting that just because Brock is the new man on the block and Barnett isnt in the UFC. Its twisted morality as far as im concerned. And no it is common knowledge that NSAC and CSAC officials have been "bought" by the UFC. Dont believe me google it yourself.
     
  3. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you know what is really going on in the sport and I don't? This is a serious question, not meant to be insulting.
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on do you seriously think lesnar has never taken steroids its almost a pre requisite that you have to take them to be in wwf. I am not saying he is taking them now but having taken them in the past would give him the same advantages.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

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    Its not even that. Guys who take hormones take them for life. Trust me its all psychological with them blokes. I see this in my gym all the time. Once they get on a cycle and they see the results they never come off them. They just break there cycle every now and then to clean out and go back on another cycle. No one ever takes hormones once and then just stops. That just doesnt happen.
     
  6. codeman99998

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    Sherk, Parisyan, Bonnar, Barnett and Sanchez were all caught while in the UFC.

    When I think of fighters that the UFC would ESPECIALLY not want caught, Bonnar and Sanchez immediately come to mind, because they were finalists in TUF1 and great for the company. I don't know man, it just doesnt add up. Why does ANYONE in the UFC get caught if they have a rigged system?
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Because i read my local papers. What do you think sherlock :roll:
     
  8. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. I think he probably took steroids while in the WWE. I don't want to make it seem as if I don't think that.
     
  9. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bull**** dude. What special information are YOU privy to that the rest of us aren't that causes you to KNOW these things. We are all fans of MMA enough that we post on an internet forum about it fairly regularly. We all follow the news of MMA to varying degrees, but certainly more than the "average UFC fan" you talk about. My question is, how do you KNOW these things that I don't know. Your local paper isn't a serious answer.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

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    NSAC and the UFC have always had a relationship that gets the UFC what its wants. 2 years ago the UFC were embroiled in a big steroid scandal with both Hermes and Sherk testing positive. There was audacious talk about them loosing there TV contract etc. Now fighters will obviously slip through the net thats only logical and likewise some of the NSAC policies put in place do work but there hardly fool proof and thus why guys like Sherk and co were caught slipping. I mean seriously Marc Rattner the former commisioner for NSAC has been working for the UFC for the last 3 years.
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Don King, Lou DiBella, and decades of boxing promoters with as much or more money couldn't control the commision, but suddenly the UFC can?

    Paranoid. The UFC tests its fighters even without needing to in foreign countries. Every main even fighter is tested, often many more than that. Random blood testing was done for the UFC and other orgs as well.

    People are discrediting Barnett because he has failed 3 drug tests. Not once, not twice, three times. That deserves discrediting.

    Give me all the supposed "common knowledge" about "oh anybody can pass a drug test, lol" bull**** you want, but there is a reason why when Pride came to the US so many fighters pissed hot. You can hide PED's to a degree, but stringent testing at least means you have to limit your use very much, something Barnett is not willing to do.
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great, now you know every steroid user ever, that must be nice. Honestly, I don't know if its the arrogance or the ignorance, but you just could not be any more wrong if you tried.

    So how are the labs that are catching Barnett missing Lesnar? Oh, the UFC controls them? Then why did Barnett get caught in the UFC....twice? Why did he get caught in a test that was determining the prevalence of them in MMA?
    If the UFC controls them how did both Sherk and Franca get caught (nobody even thought about them losing their TV deal, be ****ing serious)

    It amazes me that people think the commisions are controlled by the UFC, when the Mafia, Don Kind, Lou DiBella, et al, could not controll them 1/10th of much as people say the UFC do.