Brock Lesnar rumoured to be lookin for A Way Out Of The UFC

He hasn't got a glass jaw, he never got KO'd, although he was a bit all at sea so he is not granite by any stretch. It is his heart that is lacking, as in when he gets hit he just wants it to stop rather than being able keep calm and fire back when in the heat of an exchange.

 

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Dumbest posts of the week. JDS has some of the best takedown defence in the heavyweight weight class, and the best boxing. He is the worst possible opponent for Lesnar, he would knock Brock out within a minute. His boxing is superb, and that is Brock's Achilles heel, clearly.

 

Dave Meltzer said on his radio show the other night that he never reported this and that he does expect Lesnar to fight next year.

Lesnar does want to do Mania though. Who wouldn't want to for the two million he is being offered.

Also, the UFC is paying Lesnar more than anyone in the WWE makes. The best year by a wrestler was had by Steve Austin who made seven million during one of his peak years. According to Meltzer, Lesnar over his last few fights has made in the region of eleven million dollars.

 

Dana normally signs his fighters to exclusive contracts. I cant see him releasing Brock to go and wrestle at Mania to then come back to the UFC to fight.

 

Yeah, Lesnar has an exclusive contract. In order to do Mania he would need Dana's permission.

 

I wouldnt call Brock mediocre at all. The talent he showed in such a short space of time was exceptional. Title aside which he was given on a plate he did look impressive against a shot Herring and the wherewithal to pull out that arm triangle on Carwin i did like. But fundamentally he's a rookie. He was given the "push" because of his name. And at the end of the day he's a pro wrestler. He knows where his bread and butter is. Pro wrestling probably looks ALOT easier to him these days than his stint in the UFC.

 

I don't think it's all that outlandish to consider that Brock may be sort of traumatized by the Velasquez fight, to the point where he cannot get himself mentally ready to ever compete again.

The guy has gone through his entire life being feared, being the physical phenomenon, being the bully... and he was savagely, brutally beaten and humiliated by a smaller man.

I'm sure I remember rumours flying around after the fight that Brock could be heard screaming for the fight to be stopped while Cain was caving his face in. If that's true, then I doubt he will be able to erase that memory.

Even the video evidence of him running around the cage in a show of undignified, unbridled fear is probably enough to keep him awake at night.

The Mir loss was a submission, I don't think that would have unduly worried Brock at all. That was simply exploitation of a gap in a novice's skillset, which did not leave him particularly pained or embarrassed.

This was a whole other level of defeat.

 

The rumours were just that. I seen the fight a few times. I dont recall Brock "screaming" in that fight asking for it to be stopped. Additionally Brock was hurt hence why he stumbled vs Cain. At the end of the day he's not used to being hit in the face. So his response as far as im concerned was expected.

 

I doubt it.

The thing with Brock and pro-wrestling was the schedule...every interview he's given about the subject he's talked about looking into dressing room, seeing all those guys half-dead in their mid-thirties and just freaking out. The grind of wrestling four times a week take a much bigger toll on the body than fighting. Sure he wouldn't turn down $2million for one match but he's not going to do it full time ever again.

I'm also not sure if 'experience' can be something that's cited against Velasquez. They both started training in 2006 and while Velasquez had fought two more fights than Lesnar, Lesnar had fought the higher quality of opposition.

 

Out of interest how do you know that JDS has 'some of the best takedown defence in the heavyweight weight class'? I mean he's yet to face any of the three former all-americans at the top of the division (Carwin, Lesnar or Velasquez) so surely his takedown defense is unproven.

 

Personally i think hell will freeze over before Dana allows Brock to leave.

 

This is a gross exaggeration. Taker? Sean Micheals? Rowdy Roddy Piper? Ric Flair? Big Poppa Pump? There's a TON of guys well into their 40's and 50's wrestling on a variety of shows including TNA and the WWE.
Either way getting your face smashed in or pulling off wrestling moves as part of a script for more money? Its a no brainer.
As for Cain's experience its pretty cut and tried as far as im concerned. Cain came straight off the back of Pac 10 and was a D1 NCAA all american. And also has a belt in submission grappling. He's experience is far more recent and much easier translated into MMA than Brocks who was years removed from his stint in the NCAA. There's no point in just looking at when they turned pro or their records for that matter as thats entirely semantic.
Brock beat Couture? So what? Can you imagine what Cain would do to him? The same goes for Frank Mir and Herring. And thats not me bandwagonning Cain thems the simple facts. If Cain was given the "Push" the same way Brock was you can bet your house he would have dealt with those opponents much the same way Brock did.

 

You don't think such a thorough spanking by a smaller man would have any mental after-effects on someone like Brock?

 

Most definitely. Brock has ALWAYS thought he was invincible. And he was humbled immensely vs Carwin and against Cain. Whenever Brock faces adversity he wants the easy way out. He's been handed MANY opportunity's his entire career. But when things don't go his way he quits. He did this in the WWE NJPW The Vikings when he got cut for his stink attitude and he'll do the same in the UFC. Im just more interested to see what the legal wrangling's will be. As when he left the WWE Vince had him over a barrel legally for quite some time. Dana's contracts are watertight plus he's their poster boy. So we shall see what pans out.