Brock Lesnar rumoured to be lookin for A Way Out Of The UFC

Lesnar vs Antoni Hardonk coming up...

 

Unless Dana's in full on Don King mode Hardonk is retired. Frank Mir Brock III

 

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As for Lesnar, the UFC boss remains steadfast in his position regarding the former heavyweight champion and his desire to make an appearance for the WWE.

"Not going to happen," White said. "He can't leave the UFC. He's under contract."

Lesnar, a former professional wrestling superstar, has been linked to a potential appearance at Wrestlemania XXVII, which takes place in April.

While White wouldn't reveal what is next for Lesnar, he made it clear the heavyweight won't be starring for the WWE anytime soon – even in some kind of limited special role.

"Like row 3, seat 16?" White asked. "Row 3, seat 16 in aisle 2 sounds good to me.

Like i said. Brock can kiss WrestleMania good bye.

 

How can it be a gross exaggeration when that's what he's said? On numerous occassions to the likes of Meltzer and ESPN.

And sure you can work round injuries in pro-wrestling because its predetermined but the wear and tear on the body of being asked to wrestle 150-200 times a year is immense. Piper had a fake hip put in before he was fifty, Undertaker's hip, knees and shoulder are shot and Michaels had to take four years off before he was forty because of back problems. And that's before you start thinking about all the people who have died prematurely after wrestling.

And Lesnar is earning FAR more money doing UFC than he ever made in the WWE...indeed with the exception of Hogan/Austin/Rock in the 90s nobody comes close to what Lesnar earns. And that's without the constant grind of being on the road and away from the family for two thirds of the year. Its that travel which is why Lesnar will almost certainly never return fulltime to WWE or why the WWE was never able to do a deal with Bob Sapp despite Vince McMahon loving him.

As for Velasquez/Lesnar I'd agree with you that Velasquez had the easier time transitioning into MMA coming straight from amatuer wrestling. My point was simply that you can't make out that Velasquez vs. Lesnar was a veteran versus a rookie. They both have the same number of years in the sport and a similar number of fights. I think its bogus to excuse Lesnar's performance on the grounds of inexperience - somebody who has fought for approach three years should have ironed out the technical flaws that were highlighted in the Velasquez fight (again thinking more about the lack of a guard/bottom game than his striking).

 

Since when did Brock become the leading authority on the WWE? So Brock said it therefore it must be true? Why dont you look at the actual body of evidence that disproves "your" claim. Like i said there's plenty of wrestlers professionally wrestling well into their 40's and 50's. Can the same be said of MMA?
No ones denying the punishment their bodys take which is clearly significant. But its not comparable to physical punishment in REAL fighting for obvious reasons. That much isnt even debatable in my eyes so im not entirely sure why your rankling the point.

As for Lesnar's remuneration stop peddling the lines your reading on crappy sites like Sherdog. When Brock left the WWE he was on a seven year contract worth $45m. Brock is being offered as much as £3m for ONE wrestling match with Taker. It would make the brand 20 times that amount. Brock earned for his fight with Cain $400,000 and got his face bashed in. The maths is simple here. Taker Cena Angle Big Show Triple H all make in excess of 7 figures yearly.
You think Shamrock wrestled in the WWE for fun? Shamrock only left because he was an ******* and legitimate back stage fueds. And Shamrock was a legit mixed martial artist and King of Pancrase. He was there for the $$$$.

What you think is rather irrelevant compared with the body of evidence seen in Brock's last two fights. He's inexperience has SHONE through like a bright light. He got beat up by Carwin and Cain and both times he didn't have a clue. Do you actually believe he can as a matter of course just iron out his technical flaws in 3 years and suddenly transform into a complete mixed martial artist forgetting all the years he had as a pro wrestler?
Who cares about Brock from guard. The man doesn't KNOW HOW TO REACT when hit in the face. Thats not something you can teach just through sparring alone. There's only one reason for that mon fere INEXPERIENCE.
You ever sparred in your life? I doubt it. If you did you wouldn't make comments like that.

 

* I never based the belief that pro-wrestling can ultimately take more out of the body than fighting on just what Brock Lesnar said. And again I pointed out that the existence of fighters carrying on into their 40s and 50s did not disprove the point of the physical toll of wrestling...because many of those wrestlers were often a) suffering severe health problems and b) using the predetermined nature of pro-wrestling to take shortcuts.

* A single fight vs a single wrestling match - sure the fight takes a greater strain out of your body. I never disputed that. What I said was that having to wrestle 150-200 times is what ****s up wrestlers and is why many of them have serious health problems when they retire. Given the health profiles of longstanding wrestlers and the health profiles of longstanding fighters it should be obvious that WWE can and has taken a greater toll on the body long-term than fighting.

* Seriously you're citing Ken Shamrock's business decisions in 1995 as evidence of the relative earning potential of wrestlers and fighters in 2010. Surely you realise how stupid that is? How about looking at what the likes of Gabe Sapolsky, Jim Ross, Jim Cornette, etc say about amatuer wrestlers increasingly picking MMA over pro-wrestling because of the economic opportunities and the percieved lesser health risks.

* Brock is being given the 'Mayweather' offer...that's what its being called backstage if you believe Meltzer (which you must seeing as you're citing the figure he's been banding about for the WWE offer). They're not paying full time wrestlers that much for one match - like you said the main eventers make seven figures FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

* Stop pretending you think that the payroll figures released by the commission are the full story. Everyone knows that Lesnar gets a cut of the pay per view gross and that this takes his earnings up way above the baseline. While we can only go by speculation for Lesnar (£3mil per fight in 2010 apparently) we know for a fact that Couture was earning way more than his baseline as heavyweight champion in 2008 on far less successful shows.

* On experience, again my point was simple - Lesnar cannot use lack of experience as an excuse against somebody who started training at exactly the same time as him. But yes you're right to say that his poor reaction to being hit is linked to a lack of striking experience.

 

I can't see Lesnar really wanting to go back to WWE after being in the UFC. Unless he really wants to go down the easy money route. Brock could still beat most of the UFC non-elite contenders. I'd back him to beat anyone outside of Cain, JDS and Carwin.

 

WOW!!! all this hate just on a rumor,but then again its Brock Lesnar and everyone is gonna hate on him,I hope this isnt true i still think Brock can be the number one guy in the ufc.He has to go else where and train instead of flying a few mediocre guys out to your gym in the woods to train.Even with the loss to Cain i was still impressed with Brock his stand up looked like he had made a few adjustment like moving his head off the jab when he threw it.Brock is a work in progress and if he seriously takes this loss as a motivation the sky is still the limit.Brock achieved so much so fast i think his loss against Cain will only make him stronger when/if he decides to comeback,hell he just had another kid and wanted to do some hunting and get away from it all i believe he will be back when Dana calls.

 

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lesnar sucks bottom line he only beats people that are 46. washed up heath harring. almost got knocked out by mirs knee, someho survived carwin, and got the beatin of a life time by cain velasquez, and i think he needs to go back to the wwe.

 

I don't give a **** if Brock retires from MMA tbh!

 

Brock needs to honour his contract.

 

Don't all UFC contracts have the option inserted giving the UFC the right to cut a fighter after a loss?

If the UFC don't release Brock (should he really want out), then there is really only one thing for him to do.

He needs to get in the Octagon for his next fight and tap out during the first bit of contact and utterly embarrass the UFC and their slave contracts.

 

Sigh...for the last time HE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE UFC!

He wants to do a one-shot pro-wrestling appearance because they're offering him crazy money. But his medium term future is with the UFC.

 

Poor multimillionaire Brock, getting paid $400 000 a fight, really puts my **** wages (which goes into paying my subscription to watch the UFC) into perspective. Spartacus would be up in arms if he was around today. He really should tap out after the 1st bit of contact, it would be a vast improvement after the **** poor Cain showing. He should paint his face blue, wear a kilt and shout 'Freeeeeeeeeeeedooooooooooooooom' whilst he does it too. Representing all the oppressed people of the world who dont have a history of acting like a ***** and wanting out of a contract at the 1st sign of difficulty.
Dude could be President one day