Broken jaw doesn't warrant quitting?

I agree that a broken jaw is very tough and in some cases I would be more remorseful but.

Ortiz quit vs Maidana when the going got tough, he didnt think he deserved to take that kind of punishment.

Ortiz was knocked down by Mayweather but rather than get up and fight on like a true Mexican would, he crawled around the canvas until he heard the count finish.

So you would think after all that Ortiz would be out to prove a point, but no, even while his corner and ref wanted him to fight on he refused and yelled at the ref 'my jaws broke' knowing he would stop the fight, he was then happy to talk to jim grey after the fight was done, much like in the mayweather bout.

 

Ortiz kinda gave me the impression he had the bully mentality. He didnt look as sharp and determined as in the Berto fight like he was looking past Josesito. Vic was lucky Josesito wasn't returning rabbit shits on him I know I would. Like when Hamed tried bullying Barrera. Barrera wasn't having none of that and gave Hamed a taste of his own medicine and Naz thought twice about hitting on the clinch.

 

if someone is at work an get sick or something like that they can easily stop working and go home. get paid . and come back the next day. bad example

 

I had forgotten about Jo Jo deal:deal

 

He is comming back this fall :bbb

Good little boxer , maybe a little lack of power but meh!

 

perfectly worded and agreed 100%

 

tommy morrison fought hipp wit broken jaw
ali fought norton wit broken jaw in first bout
ruddock fought tyson wit broken jaw and rib in rematch

 

Most people goes home from work when they don't feel well.. Some even stays home because of a cold..

 

....and others will fight and win thru adversity!!!

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nah, don't you know? everybody who has called Ortiz a puto, and a quitter, are world class boxers, and WARRIORS!

 

It's not like it was Devon IT BURNS Alexander. . LOL who quit because "it burned."

This is a broken ****ing jaw. . .

 

I don't know what you do for a living, but, you're argument has some holes.

Say that each fight is a project for a boxer, that is to say; training camp / PR / fight = 1 project for this independent contractor (which all/most fighters are).

Physical injuries are a known quantity and a known risk of being a fighter. The equivalent isn't getting sick at your job and going home for the day and then coming back the next to pick up where you left off. The equivalent would be getting sick, or the job getting too hard, and then you say "nope, I'm done" and move onto the next project no matter how complete/incomplete the current one is. Furthermore, you expect whomever it is paying you - in this case it could be a PPV audience, subscribers to HBO / Showtime etc - to keep giving you work even though you have quit before when the going got tough.

That said, if a fighter WANTS to quit, it's life and career and his choice. I have nothing against Ortiz for doing that (basically 3x btw), but he probably shouldn't be rewarded / or praised for it.

 

Ali wanted it though, Ortiz didn't want it.

 

Well they all want to win. Now obviously Ortiz has a minuscule amount of Ali's mental toughness, but I don't see why people are using Ali-Norton as an example when Ali admitted he would have quit if he had known it was broken and told the interviewer it was a "dumb question" to ask why he would have.

 

I wouldn't exactly use Ali-Norton as a metaphor for Ortiz's situation.

The difference here is that some fighters have the drive to win. Other's dont.
What kept Ali fighting even though his jaw was gone? Drive. Compulsion. He didn't even know his jaw was broke because he came to win.

Listen to Ortiz, watch and listen to him quit at the end of the broadcast.
He is undriven.

I'm not faulting him as a boxer for stepping out as he did, but it takes alot of courage,guts,belief and confidence to continue on in that battered condition. Most people don't have what it takes to keep going win, lose or draw, Ortiz didn't have it.