Bronco McKart Battles On

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Bronco McKart is sheduled to take on Roman Karmazin for the vacant NABF middleweight title on Saturday 12-20-08 in Inglewood California.

    The man must be obsessed with that title. He fought Pavlik for it and lost. Pavlik vacated, and McKart fought Ornelas for it and won. That fight was a very close split decision. They had an immediate rematch, which McKart lost. So this is the 4th time Bronco has fought for that title. Can he win?
     
  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isnt the NABF like a national title? Karmazin is a Ruski.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    NABF = North American Boxing Federation. Years ago it was a part of the traditional path to a world title shot. Of Course it no longer has the prestige it had when guys like Frazier and SRL held it, but it is still a good stepping stone.
     
  4. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think they should try and bring back some prestige back to this. I think the NABF is a legitmate title, North America is a real place after all. They should start by letting only well ranked North American contenders fight for it.

    The British and European titles have been diluted by intercontinel, international and fake world belts but they are still considerd legit championships an American title sounds just as legit to me...

    I remember Karmazin being European Champion, has there ever been a boxer to hold both the legit EBU title and an official American title...?
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    Agreed to some extent, but we simply have too many titles weather they be state, regional, national, continental or world. Christ, I can't even name them all anymore. I think 15 years ago there was:

    IBF - International boxing Federation

    WBA - World boxing association

    WBC - World boxing council

    WBO - World boxing organization

    IBC - whatever the **** that stands for

    IBF - intercontintental

    WBC - Continental America

    WBA - Continental America

    NABF - North American boxing federation

    USBA - United States boxing association

    Now you have all kinds of **** like the WBF, IBO, etc, etc....

    ****in' Christ, I don't even box and I'm wondering if there's a title for me out there too.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Okay -- I agree about all the title bull****, but the question is: Can the currently quite faded version of Bronco McKart beat this guy?
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    To be honest with you Booradley, I haven't seen Bronco fight since he was more or less a prospect. Its been years, therefore I couldn't tell you for sure. If he still has the fighting heart that he had back when I used to watch him, he may well have a chance.
     
  8. jc

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    I agree there are many useless ABC belts that dont mean anything, but america is a place its not like being an intercontinental champion or a youth champion.

    I see a problem though that the World orgs have invented their own american titles which dilutes the whole idea of having a legit american champion in the first place.

    I remember when IBF want to make a IBF-UK title and the British Boxing Board of Control told them to **** off and they dumped the idea, its a shame the NABF didnt/doesnt have the influence of the BBBofC as imo it sounds like a legitamate championship...
     
  9. jc

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    I think its evenly matched as Karmazin isnt at his peak either but he is still a talented customer and would pick the former European champ to win.
     
  10. emanuel_augustus

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    I thought McKart looked surprisingly good against Marquez in what turned out to be a very good fight. I expected him to be completely shot and actually he wasn't.

    Still, there's no question this is a degraded version of McKart. Even the younger McKart wasn't overly physically gifted with speed and/or ability, just a workmanlike fighter with great will.

    I've only seen Karamazin once, but even at 35 he should have enough to beat Bronco. If forced to predict, I'd take Karamazin by late stoppage.
     
  11. booradley

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    Pesronally I think a prime McKart at 154 would have been a damn fine world titlist if he hadn't had a small problem named Winky Wright.

    I agree about the Marquez fight. He also looked good in the first fight with Ornelas.

    Bronco is a long time favorite of mine. It's a bit ironic because the first time I saw Pavlik I tuned in mainly to watch my boy "Superman" beatup some skinny midwestern kid!

    I'd really love it if McKart could put a few decent wins together, and then score a real good pay day before retiring. I think that's what he is really looking for.
     
  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ''Made in Hell'' is gonna retire him
     
  13. jamel

    jamel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was reading an article on here about Riddick Bowe's fight on the Klitschko v Rahman undercard. Apparently Riddick Bowe's opponent 14-12 fighter Gene Pukkal is also a former World Heavyweight Champion of the WAA variety. I must say I have never heard of the WAA before.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    How about some analysis with that bold prediction. I don't think I've ever seen Karamazin.
     
  15. Motor City Sam

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    Boo, I'm a Bronco fan, with him being a fellow Michiganian. In his prime he was a solid boxer and was a tough out for anyone. He's well past his prime, but I can't say for sure what will happen on December 20; I just don't know enough about Roman. I'll definitely be pulling for "Superman" Mckart. It would be nice to see him pull out another solid performance and pick up the win.