Broner / GBP / Haymon / Floyd...

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  1. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Remind what i said here...

    Broner Paullie will not happen... Broner will leave GBP in April. His contract with GBP is up, not with Al Haymon.. He will stay with Haymon and will move back to HBO under his own promotional company, who'll work together with 50 and Top Rank..

    Haymon will eventually break with GBP and take all his fighters to HBO ( where he still deals with, see Arreola Stiverne.. except for Floyd, but his work for Floyd is done... he's set for the next 3 years... money is guaranteed..

    Mayweather will end up fighting shitty GBP opponents on Showtime PPV ( Maidana, Khan, Angulo etc).. Showtime will lose lots of money here, cause his PPV numbers will decline dramatically and they still have to pay him the guaranteed money.. HBO will also do strong shows against Floyd PPV's...

    Garcia will go to Broner's Promotions too..

    Remember this thread... This is what will happen the coming years....

    Golden Boy made the mistake of their lives, they won't bounce back from this... Haymon is the real king in boxing.. And HBO will always be the major player.. Haymon knows this very well, that's one of the reasons he'll leave GBP
    Haymon and Floyd will suck all the money out of GBP and Showtime the coming 3 years.. This is so sweet.. Oscar is gonna end up worse then you might imagine in 5 years... Snorting coke everyday and broke as hell..
     
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  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Site that hypes fights seems to agree with you but you are giving Broner way too much credit here in terms of his power.

    If Haymon starts his own promotional company and/or expands the services he provides, Floyd will be heavily involved. This is a non-starter.

    Secondly, Floyd is all about that cash. If his buy rates tumble, he will look to fight bigger fights to get the earnings up. I still think the Canelo fight happens next.
     
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  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also, Bob Arum hates Haymon more than he hates Floyd.
     
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  4. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd will get 250 for 6 fights right? 42 million per fight??? I think that's pretty much the max.. He made that at HBO with fights that did between 1 and 1.5 million..
    No way fights at Showtime will top that unless he fights Pac or Broner.. or maybe Canelo..
    I don't think Guerrero will break the 1 million mark and Maidana and Alexander etc will even do less..
     
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  5. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I tend to agree that HBO will stand tall at the end of this fiasco.Showtime simply doesn't have the dates or the money to give GBP what it requires.
    I also agree that Broner will switch sides and continue to call himself Mr. HBO.
    We shall see.
    Showtime will rue the day they signed up Mayweather,unless they enjoy losing mountains of money and thus taking dollars from their boxing budget.Chalk one up for HBO.
     
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  6. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And the buy rate guarantee for Floyd won't be ridiculously high. They will absorb in case of a loss but I'd be shocked if the guarantee wasn't for 1MM or so buys, or 25M per fight for Floyd guaranteed. He's used to more lately so he will still have every incentive to draw bigger numbers.
     
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  7. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bob Arum hated King too.. Bob Arum doesn't let personal feelings hurt his bussiness. That's what makes him the most successful promoter of all times.. And DuBoeuff is going to take over anyway..
     
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  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All the numbers out there are speculation. The guarantee isn't for 42 million per fight, that's just asinine.
     
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  9. NWS

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    Has anything really been disclosed on his Showtime deal as far as just how much he is guaranteed? The initial, widespread rumor was that it could see him earn 'up to' $200 million, then later on $300 came out. If the rates tumble, he won't be the only one looking for bigger fish to fry, but Showtime will be persistently on him to do so as well.

    And I'm assuming you've got Canelo beating Trout.
     
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  10. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    250 million for 6 fights is confirmed right??? All floyd has to do for that is fight 6 times in 30 months..
     
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  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing official has been disclosed. Of course, Ellerbe will likely be inclined to exaggerate but the guarantee is based on a million buys, I'd bet anything on it. It's not a sustainable business model to guarantee Floyd 42 million to fight Guerrero or Alexander. There just won't be that type of money available based on the revenue coming in.

    And, yes, I have Canelo beating Trout and I don't think it will be particularly close.
     
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  12. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    Trout beats Alvarez:yep
     
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  13. Dedication

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    What makes you say this? I checked on Fight Hype, and they haven't backed the OP's theory.
     
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  14. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are talking about?! The Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight didn't happen because Arum let personal feelings get in the way of business.
     
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  15. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Pac didn't happen cause both ( fighters and promoters) made just as much money, probably even more, fighting easier ( and more importantly fighters from their promoters own stable) as they would made when the fought each other...
     
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